I thought I read somewhere on this forum that the updated Shape5 templates for J4 also work in J3. Since there is no obvious way to search the forum I'll ask it here. If they work on both I assume I can install the J4 template before updating to J4. I've been trying that and they have all been crashing my sites, so I guess not. What is the procedure to updating? Install the template before or after the J4 update?