thank you so much for your help, if there is ever anything I can do for you please let me know
so if I have wiped the server/hosting space clean, no more joomla install
and I am about to upload the quickstart into the publichtml folder, is that correct?
is this going to be joomla 3.8.6
am I better off installing the templete and nessary modules and the zen tools another way other than the quickstart.
I was assuming the quickstart was the way for beginners.
I knwo enough to be able to install joomla, I know the extension manager and most of the basic navigation int eh joomla browser, but I don't know how to install the zen tools and be able to use it.
my understanding is zen tools which looks to me from what I can tell to be much better than the JA page builder, although I have downloaded both and want o try both, starting with Zen tools.
but what would you suggest is the best way to go about this, not just I think it's quickstart