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[mayhesla Friend mayheslaJoin date: April 2008Posts: 64Downloads:0Uploads:2 Thanks: 26 Thanked: 5 times in 1 posts]

#136794

Hi dear JA team.

I love your templates, many of them are great and among the best.

But i miss a template that is left aligned and have a few other positions/layout options than the current ones.

I have found a site in my own country, Norway, wich shows exactly what i mean.

The link is: http://www.nettavisen.no

I love the design on this site. Clean and organized. Also the right column that goes all the way to the top is something i like 🙂

I also have a couple of other sites in norway wich is really ahead of a lot of international sites:
Norways largest online newspaper
http://www.vg.no/

and also one that is close to telline II (not left aligned…)
http://www.aftenposten.no/

The last sites use fonts like its newer been used before lol – but i lik’em a lot 🙂

In the end it’s the first suggestion i like the most, and if something like this could be made – i would be extremely happy.

What do you others think of these sites, would a simmilar design be a cool additon to the JA selection???

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#284973

I do not know how much you know about coding, but you simply have to add or change one line in any JA Template CSS File to align the complete site to the right or to the left.

You can add or change any existing module positon with the <jdoc> to wherever you want. Once you learn how, you can make that in a minute. It is simple.

(You can also make the BG File static with adding “fixed” or if it is like that like with JA Sanidine, remove the “fixed” from the css. I really like JA Uvite with a fixed BG.):D

I also would say those sites, e.g. the last one is made with Typo3.

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#284977

<blockquote>You can add or change any existing module positon with the <jdoc> to wherever you want. Once you learn how, you can make that in a minute. It is simple.</blockquote>

I dont think it’s that simple even though i know how to change a few things. But getting stuff aligned here or there sometimes break a lot of other stuff so i gave up during a few attempts in december last year.

If someone can turn one of the JA templates into a layout like the first example i gave, i would be exited to try it and learn from it 😉

Anyway – thx for your reply

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#284984

Most Joomlart templates will have the following CSS but it is not always in ja-wrapper…

#ja-wrapper {
margin:0 auto;
width:970px;
}

It is the auto that centers the site. If you remove this the site will be left aligned.

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#284985

A challenge I would like to see is where Joomlart run a competition for members to submit template design concepts (.pdf or whatever) and Joomlart release a template of the winning design.

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#284986

Add:

text-align: left;

to the template.css in #ja-wrapper {

in Zeolite it is line 961 to 969:

#ja-wrapper {
width: 950px;
margin: 0 auto;
margin: 0 auto 0 0; /* 0 auto */ (Maybe optional, but used for any other JA Template)
text-align: left;

This should align any JA Template to the left. Infact I work with align left on JA Templates as it is a requirement for commercial conform sites and presentations.

In some cases you also have to adjust a few and not many “center” to “left” in addition but this is simple too, when you just take your time.

This is a live code, so the auto tag does not change anything, as this site is left aligned and has this exact code in this part.

Much success!

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#284987

<em>@scotty 104282 wrote:</em><blockquote>A challenge I would like to see is where Joomlart run a competition for members to submit template design concepts (.pdf or whatever) and Joomlart release a template of the winning design.</blockquote> I do not think it is currently fair to submit a real pro design to the JA Member Showcase Contest, so when there will be one for amateurs and one for pros, I will submit one pro one indeed. When the pros would also submit their sites that were created with a JA Template, the prizes would always go to the pros, so I think 2 contests would be fair.:)

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#284988

The only ‘prize’ would be that your template design would be released.

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#284989

<em>@scotty 104285 wrote:</em><blockquote>The only ‘prize’ would be that your template design would be released.</blockquote> That would not be fair, as otherwise I would get royalties when I sell those at TemplateMonster.com…;)

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#284990

I think you misunderstand the idea.

This would be aimed at people who can not make templates.

They submit a design, a picture of what they would like the finished template to look like.

There would be a public vote and the winning design would be developed into a full Joomlart template and be released.

(the winner would have to waver any copyrights to the design of course)

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#284991

Okay, I understand what you mean, but when someone makes a design which shall be implemented into a commercially sold Joomla Template, which is by the way not so complicating as there are some Open Source Suites out there that make you a design from PSD to a Joomla Template, it is more rip off when the winner would only get a copyright notice.

There were some similar issues with some Stock Photography Sites there were holding “Design Contests” and later sold all the submitted art for cash on their website and the designers got nothing from the payout…;)

To keep it something real with the designers it would always have to be a fair deal and the ones who invest some time into a design will not like to see it sold by anyone without getting a share for it.

When you mean this as a contest for people who are not really designers but have some fun time with making some design and the template later will be a free Template than I think it would be fair but not when the template would later be sold as a Premium Paid Template.

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#284993

<em>@scotty 104282 wrote:</em><blockquote>A challenge I would like to see is where Joomlart run a competition for members to submit template design concepts (.pdf or whatever) and Joomlart release a template of the winning design.</blockquote>

Great idea Scotty. Hopefully the staff may take it into consideration.

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#284996

Please review what I just talked about, as Joomlart.com is commercial business, it has always to follow certain principles and a contest like this would mean to follow what I talk about. As for this, any other option would never be considered by Joomlart.com from my perspective and to implement new ideas always needs new terms and conditions as we are, if good or bad, I say good, not in a kindergarten.:)

Please think about that, no one wants to get the feeling that something is not legit as it is when suddenly users’ designs get sold and the users get nothing back. Also when it is a nice idea, it can become something that can be hold against any site who would hold such contest by any other third party who always will say what a rip-off this would be. You know the game, any day one sees news about those hick-hacks on the internet.

When every user that submits a design wants to sign a non-exclusive non-payment agreement to just see their design getting online, than okay, but this is not professional and I think very few would even submit their designs unless they get royalties or the created template will be available for free.

I think without those it is a very strange idea, regarding the known legal issues on the internet and business issues also.:)

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#284999

Ehhh Wooo your getting a bit ahead of yourself. It was just an idea and not one I had put a lot of thought into. Really no need to go starting polls on ‘The Member Showcase Contest’.

Personally I couldn’t care less about royalties and copyright if such a competition were ever to go ahead. It’s just for a bit of fun and would be interesting to see what members would come up with. If people didn’t want to enter – they wouldn’t have to.

Your taking it way too serious.

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#285002

That “way too serious” is the normal serious way as soon something is happening in a commercial surrounding, sort of strange but it is so… I did not make the rules of the game but know them quite well and so am always a bit more aware of what negative aspects some fun can have later, turning out to be no fun more in a lot of sad cases.:)

Also, I did not start a poll on your idea, which is nice indeed, nothing against it, but the template simply will have, would have to be a free one or immediately others, who are not so Pro-JA, would to a 100% say that this is some rip off and I still want to use new JA Templates in some years or so…;)

I simply started a poll about if people like the current member showcase or would like to see something different than now, as to commercial sites and private sites in one place or not.

Most important to see, I like to see that members like you spend their time here daily in and out and help others more than I can these days, so thank you indeed, this is nice to see…as you also bring quality answers to the questions asked but when it comes to such issues like this one, I better name it as I do not want that others waste their time and JA later turns out to say no to the idea anyway or that the idea may be thought over also by you and become something robust and stable, and it has to be “way serious” also when it shall be fun because it cannot be something that probably would become a pitfall later…

Fun would be when you start a topic for users to showcase their designs they have and the best one wins, but also there do I not want to see some people later seeing their design on some homepage as someone came, saw a nice design and just took the file and made some commercial site from your blueprint as you even said you can’t make it to a Joomla site and someone else may can, this is something I’m very cautions about all the time…;)

But let’s stop this topic, probably the initial post starter now has his layout aligned left already and sails happiely on the Joomlocean…:cool:

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