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[ShannonN Friend ShannonNJoin date: July 2006Posts: 1947Downloads:0Uploads:9 Thanks: 16 Thanked: 172 times in 49 posts]

#282701

nefar;94890When you’re talking PC vs MAC what you’re really comparing is an operating system. You are paying a much higher cost for apples eye candy packaging, OS10, and for hilarious commercials (Go Go Apple PR bandwagon). You will also pay an extremely high premium on software to use with the MAC.

In the end I think it really comes down to preference and how much money you want to invest. I build all my own systems and I could easily build two or three boxes for the price of one MAC and they process just as well. I want performance vs cost and the best ratio for that is build your own.

If I was so inclined I could put OS 10 on any of my boxes but that is not going to happen. I’m no MAC hater and I am by no means a Windows OS fan. I hate windows from a performance standpoint. I have never had to many issues with it stability wise as some have, however I also keep my systems clean and do formats every six months. (Quick & Easy with Ghost)

What do I want for Christmas?

The money that Mac would cost so I could build myself some new work machines 😉

lets all downgrade to P4 celerons and Ubuntu will work faster and more reliably than most modern P4 rubbish . did I say AMD rules 😉

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#282706

I still remember AMD and the first few years they arrived on the market they had so many problems with their earlier architecture I’m surprised they made it. They have improved a lot since those days but personally I never much cared for them. The only box I would of built with an AMD (before the release of conroe cores in 2006 that beat them down) would of been a pure gaming rig. I still have a few old P4 class rigs in the back they make great space heaters, especially the Prescott core. 😀

[ShannonN Friend ShannonNJoin date: July 2006Posts: 1947Downloads:0Uploads:9 Thanks: 16 Thanked: 172 times in 49 posts]

#282714

That (high temps) and the ridiculous high pricing and also the various trips down incompatible or different memory (ram) stds just make intel stuff crap

Sure intel may beat amd in a lot of areas, but my quad core low end 9550 and a low end 9600Gt video card still outperforms or equals most similar range intel based systems and are about $300 cheaper for components etc

I also have 2 intel machines one is a 4 yr old dual core P4 3 ghz 2 Gb ram system that performs well the other is 12 mth old P4 2.8 ghz dual core sytem also with 2 Gb ram the older machine pwns the newer one My athlon 6000 dual core I have just upgraded to quad core kicked both intel dual cores out the door so you can see why I like amd 🙂

[nefar Friend nefarJoin date: December 2007Posts: 434Downloads:0Uploads:2 Thanks: 78 Thanked: 42 times in 1 posts]

#282736

We’re turning this Christmas Mac thread into an AMD -Vs – Intel debate — We should start our own thread Ha. I will give you that heat & price difference issues had merit at one time, however that was years ago. Heat & prices haven’t applied since Intel released its Conroe core line. From Conroe onward the heat issues disappeared. You can run 1 GHZ overclocks on stock heatsinks and fans with both Conroe & Wolfdale cores. With the release of the Conroe line arrived Intel’s massive price point changes as well. This is the double whammy that put the hammer down on AMD. Not only did the release of Conroe outperform every AMD processor by a huge margin (Conroe’s lowest cpu even beating AMD flagship cpu at the time) they under priced them as well.

As for spending $300.00 less for a comparable AMD system I’d like to see that spec or let me know where you’re buying hardware that cheap lol. The 9550×4(2.3GHz) ($159.00) is outperformed by a fairly large margin by core 2 quads & core 2 duo Intel cpus alike. Even a low end 7200E ($115.00) outperforms the 9550 and it’s $44.00 cheaper.

Now if we were to just compare Quad vs Quad the lower end Intel Q6600 ($179.00) which again solidly outperforms the 9550 is only $20.00 more. The $20.00 easily made up by the performance increase over the 9550. Now Personally I would go with the E8500 Wolfdale core ($184.00) which outperforms the 9550 even more dramatically than the Q6600 for a measly $25.00 more. So I fail to see any large price saving here especially in the $300.00 margin if anything I could spec an Intel that’s cheaper and outperforms it.

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#282826

I think you have shares in intel 😉 I run lan parties with friends running the said Q6600 and higher end Intel stuff all of us have 4 Gb memory and same ECS 512 Mb 9600GT video cards My humble AMD outperforms these intel systems in real world gaming.

Maybe you are using benchmark programs to test? I find most benchmark programs are notoriously rigged to favour intel systems I’m sure most will agree

Looking at intel specs I find some of the performance gains may be attributed to intels higher level 2 cache than AMD

Whatever I’m happy with my systems performance and here I pay more for similar intel cpus and mobos to suit thats one reason to go amd for me as you said lets start a seperate thread for computers and “whats you system?
Shannon

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#282829

Honestly – I’ve tried to use a mac so many times and it just doesn’t compare – each time I have run into some error which has either locked up the cd drive, made me restart the computer or block programs from being closed.

PCs are the way to go – because then you aren’t locked to Apple’s restrictions. Want that new CPU or graphics card? It’s very likely that they won’t let you use it until Apple say you can, and then they’ll charge you way more for it.

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#282839

PC or Mac?

Why not let it rest and talk about something else. I don’t think this is something that you can ever have people agree on. People have different experiences adn preferences. Let’s instead spend our time discussing the websites we are trying to make regardless or the machines that we use to make them.

😀

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#282865

You’re right Sunrise, the MAC vs PC debate will probably never end but I wanted to get the views from a ‘Joomla’ point of view.

I’ve decided to go with self-build :eek:. I installed some RAM and a few cards here and there over the years but never built a machine from scratch so the idea is a little daunting.

I think I’ll be buying most of the gear from http://www.scan.co.uk witha budget of about GB£1,200

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#282871

<em>@scotty 95391 wrote:</em><blockquote>I think I’ll be buying most of the gear from http://www.scan.co.uk witha budget of about GB£1,200</blockquote>

£1,200 would buy you a VERY sexy and powerful Mac! 😉 🙂 :laugh:

OK. Let’s not go there :p

[nefar Friend nefarJoin date: December 2007Posts: 434Downloads:0Uploads:2 Thanks: 78 Thanked: 42 times in 1 posts]

#282918

<em>@scotty 95391 wrote:</em><blockquote>You’re right Sunrise, the MAC vs PC debate will probably never end but I wanted to get the views from a ‘Joomla’ point of view.

I’ve decided to go with self-build :eek:. I installed some RAM and a few cards here and there over the years but never built a machine from scratch so the idea is a little daunting.

I think I’ll be buying most of the gear from http://www.scan.co.uk witha budget of about GB£1,200</blockquote>

Once you build your own you will never go back to pre-builds. I’m not sure what the prices are like for U.K. but if that’s pounds it converts to $1799 U.S. Could build multiple computers with that amount of money easily. I could not even imagine spending $1800 on a single machine less I was building a server.

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