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#130228

Hi Everyone

Telline II / Joom 1.5.3

This is really weird. I’ve wasted a whole day on this and think I’m going crazy! :((

I’ve been trying for hours to create a new section which contains 4 categories, I’ve already done this dozens of times with no problems at all.

First attempt: I duplicated an existing section, changed the name, changed the name of the categories within, modified the Magazine menu with new names and alisases and the menu appeared, sections appeared, etc. All fine.

Problem: all articles that were published in one category, didn’t appear in that category, they appeared in another one completely. All articles published in the four categories were not where they should be when published!

So, not deterred by this minor glitch … I deleted all articles, categories, section (which automaticaly removed them from Magazine menu).

Second attempt. Created a brand new category. Created four brand new sections (Real Estate, Accommodation, Travel, Services). Modified the Magazine menu with the new Category names and aliases.

Copied a few articles and set them into the above sections.

Now, here’s REALLY weird!

Everything Published in Real Estate arrives in Services

Everything Published in Accommodation arrives in Real Estate

Everything Published in Travel arrives in Accommodation

Everything Published in Accommodation arrives in Travel

I’ve checked, double checked, triple checked, deleted, recreated and, to be honest, I’m absolutely stuck!

Could anyone advise, or even dive in and take a look in case I’ve missed anything obvious?

As stated previously, I’ve done this many times already and no problems at all. :confused:

Help!

Thanks
Chris

PS. Now going for a beer as my head is spinning! 😀

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#256844

A bit more information in the hope somebody can help with this problem.

OK. In 9/10 of my section/categories setups, the following occurs

Which is of course, correct. This is also reflected in my Firefox tab:

Everything in these 9 sections works fine. Any article published into say:
Section – Area Focus
Category – Coast
is fine and appears where it should (as in the ‘Varna’ article in this very case).

All fine with 9/10 of my sections 🙂 Now is where things get weird :((

1 out of my 10 sections, as stated above, is publishing articles in the wrong categories!

Take for example this article. As you can see, it is set to publish in section Directory and category Accommodation:

However, it doesn’t publish at all in Accommodation, it arrives in Real Estate?

And, looking at my Firefox tab … something weird is happening:

Obviously there is a ‘crossing of paths’ somewhere in there.

In desperation, I deleted all articles, all categories and section. Recreated a new section, the four categories, modified the Magazine menu and published some articles.

Same Problem!

Hope somebody can offer some thoughts on what’s happening.

Thanks
Chris

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#256851

Do you have anything in your TRASH did you empty this?

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#256858

Thanks for the reply mfcphil

I just emptied the ‘menu trash’ and ‘article trash’, tried again, just the same :((

However, “Curiouser and curiouser!” to quote Alice!

There’s something else happening with this section (and none of the others) which is strange too.

Here’s an article I’ve just published into the ‘Directory’ section, the one that’s causing me problems:

No amount of fiddling around with this article would ‘force’ the text to be alongside the image. However, as soon as I publish this same article into any of the other 9 sections, all is fine:

I can’t see anywhere (Section manager, Category manger or Magazine menu) which would cause this to happen?

Another strange thing … ID numbers.

For instance, pointing at the ‘Real Estate’ button, you can see that the blog ID is set to 93

However, in Category manager, Real Estate is actually ID 92. Which oviously explains why the menus don’t go where they should and the articles don’t publish where they should:

However, I can’t seem to find how or why these ID numbers were set, or how I can access them to change this.

This is doing my head in!

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#256876

<em>@questbg 62829 wrote:</em><blockquote>Hi Everyone

Telline II / Joom 1.5.3

This is really weird. I’ve wasted a whole day on this and think I’m going crazy! :((

I’ve been trying for hours to create a new section which contains 4 categories, I’ve already done this dozens of times with no problems at all.

First attempt: I duplicated an existing section, changed the name, changed the name of the categories within, modified the Magazine menu with new names and alisases and the menu appeared, sections appeared, etc. All fine.

Problem: all articles that were published in one category, didn’t appear in that category, they appeared in another one completely. All articles published in the four categories were not where they should be when published!

So, not deterred by this minor glitch … I deleted all articles, categories, section (which automaticaly removed them from Magazine menu).

Second attempt. Created a brand new category. Created four brand new sections (Real Estate, Accommodation, Travel, Services). Modified the Magazine menu with the new Category names and aliases.

Copied a few articles and set them into the above sections.

Now, here’s REALLY weird!

Everything Published in Real Estate arrives in Services

Everything Published in Accommodation arrives in Real Estate

Everything Published in Travel arrives in Accommodation

Everything Published in Accommodation arrives in Travel

I’ve checked, double checked, triple checked, deleted, recreated and, to be honest, I’m absolutely stuck!

Could anyone advise, or even dive in and take a look in case I’ve missed anything obvious?

As stated previously, I’ve done this many times already and no problems at all. :confused:

Help!

Thanks
Chris

PS. Now going for a beer as my head is spinning! :D</blockquote>

Hi Chris,

It may be good to read the last “How to” that I sent you, especially the section dealing with the renaming of Sections and categories in the Magazine menu. While that was written for Joomla 1.0x, I think it applies also to Joomla 1.5x

The key in all this is that for each Section name (or Category name) its respective Section ID (or the Category ID) must be the same in the Section manager (or Category name) and the Magazine menu.

Was the Section and Categories in question, previously from existing Section and Categories in the Demo, and you just renamed them?

This may be a case where the Category ID and the Category name in the Category manager is not in agreement with the Category ID and the Category name in the Magazine manager.

The Category ID is fixed (permanent, unless deleted) and unique. In contrast, the Section name or Category name may be changed. Therefore, the Category ID takes precedence, not the Category name

This problem arises and is easily overlooked because in the Category manager the latest one added is at the top.

In contrast, in the Magazine menu, the Demo had it is ascending order based on ID number (lowest number top => highest number bottom)

Example:

Assume from the World Section of the Demo page

Category manager (this is how the categories Africa and Asia will appear in the Category manager)

[Legend: Category Name => CID (this is the last number)]

Asia => 2 ==> let us say this is renamed to Accomodations
Africa => 1 ==> let us say this is renamed to Travel

This I assume is how you renamed them, because they are in alphavetical order. If you did not take note of the Category ID and Category name equivalence, and you are not aware of the difference in arrangement in the Magazine menu, you are likely to do this:

Magazine menu

Africa => 1 ==> is renamed to Accomodations
Asia => 2 ==> is renamed to Travel

In the example given, the articles that are for Travel will go to Accomodations, and vice versa — because in the Magazine manager, their Category IDs are interchanged..

If the above will not resolve the matter, what you stated here is rather puzzling.

<em>@questbg 62829 wrote:</em><blockquote>
First attempt: I duplicated an existing section, changed the name, changed the name of the categories within, modified the Magazine menu with new names and alisases and the menu appeared, sections appeared, etc. All fine.
</blockquote>

How can you duplicate a existing Section? and where was done and how can this be done? To my knowledge, you can rename an existing Section name in the Section manager (see Tutorial).

Cornelio

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#257029

Chris

Translating the User Guide into Spanish I found out what I think is causing your problem. If you are using JA Zin you need to go to the plug in administration and select Update Settings to refresh the changes you made to your category/section structure. Then, you can unpublish those menus you don’t need any more.

<blockquote>This menu will be created base on your Section structure and Category you’ve had. If you have any changes in your section/category structure, please select Update Setting = Yes in JA Zin configuration page to make change to menu.</blockquote>

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#257035

<em>@anaivelisse 63197 wrote:</em><blockquote>Chris

Translating the User Guide into Spanish I found out what I think is casuing your problem. If you are using JA Zin you need to go to the plug in administration and select Update Settings to refresh the changes you made to your category/section structure. Then, you can unpublish those menus you don’t need any more.</blockquote>

Wow! You have a translation already? That will be great to have. I wonder if the same procedure will work also for Joomla 1.0.x

What I found out last night is that if the section is already there (in the magazine menu, and you add knew categories, it automatically loaded the new categories added to the magazine menu. This is for Joomla 1.0x.

Cornelio

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#257113

Hi Ana/Cornelio

Goodness! I take a weekend off and you two have been real busy with Multi-language manuals and such … I’m still catching up!

🙂

OK. With regards the problem, which still exists:

Ana – no, I’m not using JA Zin just Teline II demo site, replicated and changed a bit but with no extra extensions installed (except Joom!Fish)

Cornelio – I created these sections/categories as per the original tutorial, in fact, the same way as I created the original 9 (which worked OK).

However, this was the first time I had ‘edited’ one of the demo menus that wasn’t visible (ie. unpublished), and, I edited the FAQ’s menu. This I think is the root of the whole problem, as, as far as I can see, the FAQ pages work totally different to every other section (hence the problem with the graphics as above).

Today I will delete all the articles in each category, delete the categories, delete the section and start again with new names!!

Will let you know what happens.

Thanks
Chris

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#257119

OK. You can now put me down as totally pissed off with this

Our ‘demo’ site was supposed to be ‘live’ today as we have clients arriving for a look at the new version of our site. I spend the last FOUR DAYS wasting my time trying to do something I’ve done dozens of times before. And, what’s even worse … it’s a different bug this time!

OK. Here’s the latest update.

Today, I decide to waste most of the morning yet again. I delete all articles in the four categories that aren’t working. I then delete the four categories. I then delete the section ho-hum, been there, done that before!

OK, off we go again. Create a brand new section …. using a brand new name. Create four new categories (even used names and aliases we’ve never used before for this also).

Publish an article as a test and HOORAY after four days, it goes where it should. We nearly got exicted, until that is, we published a second article
>:(

Here’s the setup of my category in the Magazine menu:

And, here’s what happens on the page:

So, I have to ask:

WHY Did this Category decide to ignore the fact that this is a 2 column layout?
WHAT is all that ‘grey’ stuff at the top of the page, I didn’t ask for it, I don’t want it?
WHY Doesn’t the runaround NOT work on the second logo (it did when it was first published)?

To be honest, I’m getting like a few others on here and quite ready to Jump Ship on Teline II. The support from the JA team is non-existent and when I pay 75 dollars for support, I expect support.

Thanks to Cornelio, Menalto, mfcphil, VisiGod and others for their support … however, we should not be here to do the jobs of JA without pay.

Sorry guys, totally disillusioned with JA, Teline II and my site at the moment. I’m sick of wasting my time, I’m sick of banging my head on the wall. If I can’t fix this today, I’m out of here and leave you valiant few to struggle on with this template.

Cheers
Chris

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#257126

Hi Ana

<em>@anaivelisse 63197 wrote:</em><blockquote>Chris
If you are using JA Zin you need to go to the plug in administration and select Update Settings </blockquote>

I think you may be on to something here!

I went the the PlugIns manager and selected JAZin plugin. I clicked on ‘Update = Yes’ and saved.

Now, the ‘grey’ stuff that was at the top of the page (as above) has now gone!?!

However, it’s still ignoring the fact that I requested a double column layout!

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#257133

Ana … you certainly are onto something!! Thank you (‘thanked’ appropriately above)!

OK, nearly there:

1. Articles now going where they should
2. Grey ‘stuff’ removed from top of page
3. Double column layout is back!

So, we only need to figure out whey the text is appearing underneath the image, and not alongside it, and I’m just about there.

Nothing in the article code looks like it should cause this problem:

So, if we can just crack that one, I’m done!

Thanks
Chris

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#257138

Chris,

Glad your spirits are back.

I hope Menalto comes to the rescue aside from Ana. I am not familiar with Joomla 1.5x, so I will not confuse you. Good luck with your meeting. I hope everything goes well.

Cornelio

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#257140

Chris

I hope just for show of unbelievable patience that you get this fixed.

Keep smiling 😉

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#257157

<em>@cgc0202 63321 wrote:</em><blockquote>
Glad your spirits are back.
</blockquote>

<em>@mfcphil 63323 wrote:</em><blockquote>
Keep smiling
</blockquote>

Thanks both, at least it’s some form of entertainment if nothing else 😉

Right, I decided to find out if this was something that was caused in the article, or the category, I decided to copy an article which is working fine in another section, into the problem section and see what happens.

Here is the article in normal sections:

Here is same article copied to the problem section:

So, deduction would indicate that something is telling the system that articles in this ‘problem’ section should be formatted differently to the other nine?

I checked in Admin for ‘section’ and ‘category’ there is nothing there that indicates this can be done. I checked the Magazine menu, again, I can see nothing here that could make a section behave like this.?

Has anybody got any ideas on this?

Thanks
Chris

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#257198

Try this. It helped me with the same formatting problem.

Can you try editing line 77 in templates/ja_teline_ii/html/com_content/section/blog.php
Code:
$this->img_align = $this->modparams->get(‘align’,0);
to
Code:
$this->img_align = $this->modparams->get(‘align’,’left’);

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