Public Forums 71,145 posts

[VisiGod Friend VisiGodJoin date: January 2006Posts: 538Downloads:0Uploads:4 Thanks: 76 Thanked: 138 times in 18 posts]

#294301

They decreased the number of domains again? These were three for the standard membership in the past.
Super, this only proves the total disrespect to their customers.

From what I can see, their extensions club breaks the GPL as well.

This is not the right direction, in my opinion.

[bennitos Friend bennitosJoin date: May 2008Posts: 1717Downloads:0Uploads:39 Thanks: 39 Thanked: 474 times in 407 posts]

#294302

<em>@cgc0202 115671 wrote:</em><blockquote>
1 Year Standard Membership — 1 domain, no technical support
1 Year Developer — “unlimited everything” for $500

No indication of “shorter” 4 months, or 6 months, anymore. According to another poster, when he tried to register for shorter period, the system did not allow him
</blockquote>

They still offer 1 year or 3 months standard membership both with support?
Like visigod said they did bring the total domains down to 1 on the 3 months membership tho, one year remains the same.

[cgc0202 Friend cgc0202Join date: August 2007Posts: 2244Downloads:0Uploads:3 Thanks: 206 Thanked: 262 times in 1 posts]

#294316

VisiGod and Bennitos,

I stand corrected. It used to be that when you click on the pricing, you will show all choices. However, I only saw two — standard membership for one year and Developer accounts, plus a separate membership for the Extensions Club, for standard members who wanted to access the Extensions.

In another thread, a few members stated that they were not able to “buy” the short term accounts. Note that these are now hidden (when you access the pricing link). They are now hidden, especially if you are already logged in. So, I decided to logged out. When I tried to simulate joining (for the first time), I saw the other choices. Note that this hidden (old) information is different from the ones showing under pricing.

Note also that while it says 3 domain license in the old page (for one year), but if you look at the “pricing” page (to access click via URL)

http://www.joomlart.com/

If I am not mistaken, it had 1 license earlier?, which would have confirmed what I thought I read as stated by others. It is interesting that in the in the pricing page, the license allowed for one year is placed as 2+(????) — if vague number exploited 3 is greater than 2, but so is one million *grins*.

As to support, when I am logged in, the history showing stated that when I had a standard membership, there was a cross under (Support), and I had to pay extra to get that service. Again, this is not consistent with the old membership pricing page, where technical support is checked, even for standard members.

In reality, this was the case. When I was a standard member Joomlart never answered technical support that I sent via the generic email. Even in the forums, until I and a number of posters raised stink, most of my request for technical support were not answered.

Cornelio

[VisiGod Friend VisiGodJoin date: January 2006Posts: 538Downloads:0Uploads:4 Thanks: 76 Thanked: 138 times in 18 posts]

#294318

Cornelio,

These people have no business logic believe me. They can not even produce a single type of meaning statements. Their problem is that they are triyng to find more and more ways how to get more money from their customers and they don’t even consider aligning their policies here and there.

Don’t try to analyse. This is Vietnam. There is no business culture there. It is the case, how to get rich now!!! Don’t try to compare, there is no business culture! These people are good in making Joomla! templates to certain level, no doubt there. But they are not businessmen, they have no idea how to manage business like theirs when it becomes in to large scale. They are programmers, designers and they make a lot of mistakes as they have no idea what is bussiness ethics. Probably this doesn’t exist in Vietnam (no idea).

For a certain template, where JA offered also a Fireboard template, I asked for the source file of the FB buttons and I received an answer that there are no such. This is not serious.

And I no longer care you know. Sometimes it is not a matter if you like this or that template or its quality, it is a matter of if you want to pay to a gang of cheep bastards or to business professionals.

I made my choice, I still have time here and I will use it till I can, but that’s all.

[mavdes Friend mavdesJoin date: December 2007Posts: 21Downloads:2Uploads:0 Thanks: 3]

#294384

thanks for all

suggestion :

why not JA do this :

Copyright © 2009 Site Name. All Rights Reserved. Developed (or Created) By : JoomlArt.com Designed By : MemberSite.com.

for me i dun mind

note : in old post i did say that joomlart better than other sites .. at that time the support and the licences was different

best regards

[prakash Friend prakashJoin date: October 2008Posts: 439Downloads:0Uploads:1 Thanks: 2 Thanked: 146 times in 115 posts]

#310999

With JA planning to release only one template per month… i think JA should also reduce their rates to prevailing market rates of other Template Clubs that release only one template a month. That means that instead of the USD500/year for developer license that should now come down to USD250/USD300.

[thatcomputerdude Friend thatcomputerdudeJoin date: December 2008Posts: 280Downloads:0Uploads:9 Thanks: 67 Thanked: 32 times in 1 posts]

#311057

Will you be releasing your 1 template per month on the 1st of every month or the 15th like all the other quality template clubs out there?

[noibihappy2009 Friend noibihappy2009Join date: January 2009Posts: 62Downloads:0Uploads:8 Thanked: 6 times in 1 posts]

#311060

<blockquote>Don’t try to analyse. This is Vietnam. There is no business culture there. It is the case, how to get rich now!!! Don’t try to compare, there is no business culture! These people are good in making Joomla! templates to certain level, no doubt there. But they are not businessmen, they have no idea how to manage business like theirs when it becomes in to large scale. They are programmers, designers and they make a lot of mistakes as they have no idea what is bussiness ethics. Probably this doesn’t exist in Vietnam (no idea).</blockquote>
I have complete agreed w/ you.
JA is Vietnemese company, which country in poor culture.
In another side, almost (not sure at all or not) just focus on “how to have short way to get money” or w/ webmaster “how to have high ranks quickly” w/ care how to do.

Actually i bought this account for my client only. By myself i often take away to use this.
No support or “funny” support 😉

[munders Friend mundersJoin date: November 2008Posts: 375Downloads:0Uploads:37 Thanks: 50 Thanked: 4 times in 1 posts]

#311061

Having read many pages of this particular forum I have made the following observations:

Many subscribers are going to leave when Joomlart introduces domain checking.
I will definitely be one of these people because I often test templates on subdomains, and then delete them if not suitable. Terrible decision from Joomlart and will cause financial loss to them.

Many subscribers are not happy that they have paid for 1 year of 2 brand new templates per month and now they will not get that. It’s almost illegal. If your electricity provider said you could have 1 year of electricity and then not provide any for the last 6 months then you would take them to court understandably.

Many subscribers agree that quality over quantity is preferred, but if Joomlart do cancel one of the templates every month then the subscribers want to visibly see the spare time dedicated to improving the quality and features of the only template. Joomlart would have to guarantee this.

Many subscribers feel that Joomlart’s support is very slow. I can agree with them as it has taken more than 24 hours to receive any acknowledgement previously. Does anyone know where they are based? The time difference may play it’s part in this, although if they cut templates back to one each month then they will have double time to answer questions.

There is a subscriber called TCRAW that is arguing with all other subscribers on here. Has anyone else noticed the negative manner behind this person? Is he an employee of Joomlart? The guy has issues, very defensive for some reason.

Thanks for reading

[noibihappy2009 Friend noibihappy2009Join date: January 2009Posts: 62Downloads:0Uploads:8 Thanked: 6 times in 1 posts]

#311063

Forgot:
By myself. JA template quality is not too much good like the cost paid.
YOOtheme is better.

[prakash Friend prakashJoin date: October 2008Posts: 439Downloads:0Uploads:1 Thanks: 2 Thanked: 146 times in 115 posts]

#311078

Even as of today… the main page still reads –

65 current + 20 coming

* 65 Templates to download
* Thousands of Club Members..
* Growing strong community
* Extensions (as demo) included
…can some one from JA please chage to the actual count as of today and also say 12 coming! because from next month its just 1 template a month….

and when u reduce the number of templates from 24 to just 12 a year you can expect developers to pay you the full amount now new developer accounts and renewals should be charged 50% of what they are now – because we paid considering that there would be 24 templates and based on when one joined…one will definitely get the 24 templates….

[zagor33 Friend zagor33Join date: January 2009Posts: 31Downloads:10Uploads:0 Thanks: 15 Thanked: 2 times in 1 posts]

#311118

This is a strong criticism, or rather a very humble, not directly to JoomlArt team, but all the developers of Joomla.

Joomla is Open Source software is free, but many extensions pays almost 65%, so try to change the code of Joomla team is to survive as a free CMS, as WordPress and Drupal, have a clear advantage in this CMS although it pains me to say much because he is my favorite.

The JoomlArt team, should free templates for free every three months to contribute to Joomla, and every developer who benefits from this open source CMS, should contribute to its development, not only making donations for the project, it is true is Joomla the larger community of developers, but most are for your personal gain, something has to live is the reality, but do not forget that Joomla is not free if you do not have that kind of person using the network.

Once I told a friend that Windows Vista, Windows 95 would last less time and gave me the reason, now I tell them to follow and Joomla, I would be declaring his death certificate, if the thing does not change I think more than two years will last a Joomla.

[scotty Friend scottyJoin date: March 2008Posts: 2339Downloads:0Uploads:13 Thanks: 76 Thanked: 827 times in 595 posts]

#311130

Joomla contributed one of the 3 default Joomla templates and gave virtuemart the excellent Larix template. I think they have played their part in the free template department.

if the thing does not change I think more than two years will last a Joomla.

Rubbish!

Joomla is Open Source software is free

When talking about open source applications when they use the word ‘free’ they mean freedom as in you are free to modify and redistribute the files. They are not referring to free as in you don’t have to pay. Under the GPL you are quiet entitled to charge a fee for your application.

[bennitos Friend bennitosJoin date: May 2008Posts: 1717Downloads:0Uploads:39 Thanks: 39 Thanked: 474 times in 407 posts]

#311131

And dont forget the recent sponsoring of Joomla! Day Bangkok

see:

http://www.joomlart.com/forums/topic/joomla-day-bangkok-lets-sponsor-the-event-together/

[TomC Moderator TomCJoin date: October 2014Posts: 14077Downloads:58Uploads:137 Thanks: 948 Thanked: 3155 times in 2495 posts]

#311132

munders;136765
Many subscribers are not happy that they have paid for 1 year of 2 brand new templates per month and now they will not get that. It’s almost illegal. If your electricity provider said you could have 1 year of electricity and then not provide any for the last 6 months then you would take them to court understandably.

There is noting remotely illegal about it . . . this plan has been in place for OVER a year now. There has been PLENTY of notice to everyone about the change that would be occurring in August 2009.

Many subscribers agree that quality over quantity is preferred, but if Joomlart do cancel one of the templates every month then the subscribers want to visibly see the spare time dedicated to improving the quality and features of the only template. Joomlart would have to guarantee this.

They wouldn’t “have to” do anything . . . . but I agree that the additional time that JoomlART will now have should be reflected in the quality of the overall product – which includes how the website and community support is administrated.

There is a subscriber called TCRAW that is arguing with all other subscribers on here. Has anyone else noticed the negative manner behind this person? Is he an employee of Joomlart? The guy has issues, very defensive for some reason.

How, exactly, have I been “negative?

Quite the contrary . . . I always respond constructively and collectively with my opinions and assessments to issues posted – just as others do. Most often, I am the one who is greeted with harsh and condescending backlash . . . . not unlike the unmitigated finger pointing you just put forth above. If you have an issue with the way I present my opinions and/or communication, perhaps you might consider discussing it with me via PM rather than posting your personal finger-pointing on the general public forum. I would be more than happy to engage in a civil exchange with you to address your concerns.

[Author]

Posts