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#264963

<em>@tanisha 73025 wrote:</em><blockquote>If you are going to change the templates from 2 to 1 template/s a month then how will each member that has paid for 2 templates a month membership (which will last past August 2009) be compensated?</blockquote>
You didn’t “pay for” two templates a month, you paid for membership into the JA Template Club so you can have access to the JA Template library. Changes are, you – like the vast majority of us – joined because you saw one particular template that you wanted to use. Being treated to two template releases per month is an added bonus – especially considering that the price to join the JA Template Club is comparable (and in some cases less) to all other Template Clubs who all produce one template per month.

So, your “compensation” is another full year of 2 templates per month – afterwhich you can make the conscious decision whether quantity is more important to you than quality.

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#264964

<blockquote>You didn’t “pay for” two templates a month, you paid for membership into the JA Template Club</blockquote>

You paid for a membership advertised as including two templates. Again, if the quantity was not important, why is it the feature listed most prominently in the summary of membership benefits?

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#264968

<em>@markb1439 73034 wrote:</em><blockquote>You paid for a membership advertised as including two templates. Again, if the quantity was not important, why is it the feature listed most prominently in the summary of membership benefits?</blockquote>
I really think you’re all trying to stretch this issue to an illogical conclusion – you join a Template Club for the templates – whether it’s one, two, three or ten a month. Furthermore, it’s like a no-win situation with some of you (figuratively speaking). You complain about the quality of the templates and how you feel they are “repackages” of former templates . . . and then, when a solution is offered that the JA Team feels will yield higher quality template offerings, you complain about that.

JA seems damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Ultimately, the choice will be yours if you choose to stick around. Personally, I am going to stick around, because it wasn’t the “two template a month” that attracted me to JA – it was the quality and versatility of the templates that originally hooked me and has kept me around.

I honestly do not believe I am alone in my position.

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#264969

But the “two templates a month” did attract many subsribers. That is why it is the most prominently-featured selling point. Sure, the quality has to be good, so if they have fallen short in quality the answer is to get quality up — not give people half as many templates for their money. Sure, at one template per month a JA membership will still be a good thing…but only half as good as a two-template-per-month membership.

You’re right, people join for the templates. But I’d rather have twice as many to choose from for my money. Who wouldn’t?

<blockquote>JA seems damned if they do, damned if they don’t.</blockquote>

That’s because they’re ignoring the option that would be best for their customers and for them. They seem to think that the only choices are:

– Keep things the way they are (two templates a month with questionable quality); or
– Cut back to one template per month.

They ignore the other choice:

– Stay at two templates per month and fix the quality issues.

That other choice would give them a significant advantage over other template clubs, which could more than cover the money it costs JA to implement that option.

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#264980

<em>@markb1439 73039 wrote:</em><blockquote>Sure, the quality has to be good, so if they have fallen short in quality the answer is to get quality up[/quote]
Which is EXACTLY why they are doing this – why can’t you understand this?

<em>@markb1439 73039 wrote:</em><blockquote>] Sure, at one template per month a JA membership will still be a good thing…but only half as good as a two-template-per-month membership.[/quote]
That is a “glass is half empty” view of the situation.

<em>@markb1439 73039 wrote:</em><blockquote>You’re right, people join for the templates. But I’d rather have twice as many to choose from for my money. [/quote]
And so again, it’s a QUANTITY over quality issue for you.

<em>@markb1439 73039 wrote:</em><blockquote>That’s because they’re ignoring the option that would be best for their customers and for them. They seem to think that the only choices are:

– Keep things the way they are (two templates a month with questionable quality); or
– Cut back to one template per month.[/quote]
This issue has been debated back and forth many times – and each time, the majority consensus is to cut back to one template a month.

<em>@markb1439 73039 wrote:</em><blockquote>They ignore the other choice:

– Stay at two templates per month and fix the quality issues.[/quote]
They are ignoring nothing – it was all considered.

It’s quite easy for someone like yourself – who is focusing more on the “give me more” rather than the quality of the product – who doesn’t really understand the intricacies of running a business to sit back and say “just hire more people.” Guess what, it’s not always that simple.

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#264981

<blockquote>It’s quite easy for someone like yourself – who is focusing more on the “give me more” rather than the quality of the product – who doesn’t really understand the intricacies of running a business to sit back and say “just hire more people.” Guess what, it’s not always that simple.</blockquote>

Quit putting words into my mouth and assuming things about me.

Once again you are wrong about what I’m saying. I am not saying they should favor quantity over quality. I am saying they would have a much better competitive advantage if they offered BOTH.

And where the hell do you get off telling me that I don’t understand the intricacies of running a business? You don’t know what I’ve done in my life. I am very successful in business, generating several million dollars in sales in the past decade. So don’t tell me I don’t understand running a business.

Any business consultant would tell you that the way to succeed is to differentiate yourself from your competitors. My advice would help JA do that instead of eliminating the main advantage they have. Plain and simple…a company offering two high-quality templates a month will have a competitive advantage over companies that only offer one. Plain and simple…getting two instead of one for the same price is better. That’s not a half-empty view of the glass, it’s simply the truth? If you could get two great steak dinners for the same price that someone else charges for one, which would you choose? Why is this so hard for you to understand?

You have your opinion and I have mine. But do not…I REPEAT, DO NOT put words into my mouth (making incorrect assumptions by extrapolating my comments, for example that I only favor quantity over quality) and DO NOT insult my expertise in the business field. You do not know enough about me to insult my business expertise the way you did.

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#264982

<em>@markb1439 73054 wrote:</em><blockquote>
Once again you are wrong about what I’m saying. I am not saying they should favor quantity over quality. I am saying they would have a much better competitive advantage if they offered BOTH.[/quote]
They’ve been trying both for several years – and all they’ve been getting are rants and complaints from people asserting that they are “repackaging” this and “repackaging” that. Again, this discussion has gone back and forth for some time – and the majority consensus has been to go to one template a month – which isn’t even going to happen for an entire year form now.

markbAnd where the hell do you get off telling me that I don’t understand the intricacies of running a business? You don’t know what I’ve done in my life. I am very successful in business, generating several million dollars in sales in the past decade. So don’t tell me I don’t understand running a business.[/quote]
Well, judging by how simple you seem to think the process of “improving quality” is – just like that – I have to say that I have my doubts about your claims of grandeur. Business is not “simple as that.”

TomC wrote:

My advice would help JA do that instead of eliminating the main advantage they have. Plain and simple…a company offering two high-quality templates a month will have a competitive advantage over companies that only offer one.

Fantastic – Perhaps YOU can offer your expert consultation services gratis and find JA the kind of people they need to both improve the quality of the product AND continue to offer two templates a month.

Don’t you think all of that has been considered? Do you think that Hung’s decision was made on a whim?

TomC wrote:

You have your opinion and I have mine. But do not…I REPEAT, DO NOT put words into my mouth (making incorrect assumptions by extrapolating my comments, for example that I only favor quantity over quality) and DO NOT insult my expertise in the business field. You do not know enough about me to insult my business expertise the way you did.</blockquote>
Your words and attitude speak volumes . . . and I will voice whatever opinions and observations I please.

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#264986

<blockquote>Your words and attitude speak volumes . . . </blockquote>

Your words and attitude speak volumes too…assuming things about people that you don’t have a clue about (like my business experience).

Another example: You say that I think it would be simple to improve the quality and keep the quantity up. I never said that. Sometimes companies have to do things that aren’t simple. I never said this would be easy, and you (once again) put words into my mouth.

<blockquote>and I will voice whatever opinions and observations I please.</blockquote>

Feel free to keep doing that, but you only make yourself look like an ass when you do things like making wide-ranging assumptions about people when you don’t have evidence to back it up.

Another example: You have no reason to doubt my “claims of grandeur.” Again, you know virtually nothing about me. I never claimed to be Bill Gates, I simply pointed out that I have a successful track record with millions of dollars of sales behind me. I didn’t say tens of millions, I said millions. So don’t accuse me of being a liar unless you have evidence…which you simply don’t. What I said is true, and you have no reason to doubt it.

So go ahead and voice your observations. Everything you’ve assumed about me (my business sense, my “claims”, etc.) is wrong.

I voiced an opinion which is consistent with the advice that many business consultants would give: differentiate yourself from your competitors. You turned it into an argument and made false claims against me just because you don’t agree with my opinion. YOUR words and attitude speak volumes.

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#264988

Great news, even if it is a year too late, but better late than never.
This will also negate any demands of compensation.

I personally think this is a great decision and hopefully will enable JoomlArt to improve the design aspects of their template and stop the continual churning out of the same old templates.

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#264990

<em>@markb1439 73059 wrote:</em><blockquote>
Feel free to keep doing that, but you only make yourself look like an ass when you do things like making wide-ranging assumptions about people when you don’t have evidence to back it up.[/quote]
You mean like the assumption that JA will lose it’s competitive edge by moving to one template a month? Seems to me you are making an assumption – based on quantity over quality – without actual evidence to back it up – because it has not yet been put to the test.

<em>@markb1439 73059 wrote:</em><blockquote>
I voiced an opinion which is consistent with the advice that many business consultants would give: differentiate yourself from your competitors. </blockquote>
And JA does just that with the sheer versatility of the templates they offer.

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#265000

Plain and simple, offering two high-quality templates a month would be a competitive advantage over companies that offer one for a comparable price.

Will JA die if it goes forward with only one template per month? No. But will more people be likely to buy if they offer two high-quality templates? Absolutely. Why is that so hard to understand? These are basic marketing principles we’re talking here. You think JA’s quality alone is enough to give it an advantage over competitors, but many people don’t share that view. The more things you can do to distinguish yourself from competitors, the better.

By the way, you keep talking about how the vote was overwhelmingly to cut the number of templates. That’s because people were only given two options:

– Get two templates of questionable quality per month; or
– Get one template of good quality.

That created a dilemma and basically told users that the only way they could get acceptable quality was to choose the second option. I would have chosen that option two, with only those options available. But I’m saying that there should have been a third option:

– Get two templates of good quality, just like I thought I was supposed to be getting all along.

<blockquote>And JA does just that with the sheer versatility of the templates they offer</blockquote>

Not according to many people. I like lots of the JA stuff, but lots of people complain about the lack of versatility. Other services offer templates and extensions comparable to many JA templates.

I can’t win with you. I could say that I think the sky is blue. You would probably tell me I was wrong, tell me I’m a pessimist because I called the sky “blue,” tell me I don’t understand the intricacies of color, and tell me I’m lying when I say I’m qualified to assess the color.

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#265004

HI

Great templates but with the new Joomla 1.5.3 none of the templates will install except ja_archenar template. I have downloaded 1.5 versions and I have freashed installed Joomla. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

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#265005

What steps are you using to install, and what happens when you try? (Error messages, etc.)

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#265015

Hi

Thanks for your quick reply. Sorry for the delay but I had to make sure so I repeated the same procedure again.

I am using Joomla 1.5.3 and to install it, I select the zip version of the template , say ‘JA Labra v1.2 for Joomla1.5.x.zip’ in Joomla where Extensions> Install/uninstall, ‘Upload Package File’ browse the file on my local machine then click on the Upload file.

—-Error message——————————
There was an error uploading this file to the server.
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#265017

That sounds to me like a corrupted file or corrupted upload attempt (though I may be wrong). Do you get this error repeatedly with different templates? Have you tried installing one of the QuickStarts?

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