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#129790

Hello,

I am installing a new Joomla 1.5x-Teline II QuickStart. I am planning to do it systematically to record all errors or other observations noted.

In the Pre-installation Step:

All are green except:

Display Errors: Off On.

where Off is recommended but the Actual is On., eliciting a code red.

I wonder how critical this is. And if so, what causes it and how to circumvent this.

Thanks.

Cornelio

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#254217

This is usefull to have on to debug or develop a site, but on a live site set it to off. On some php versions it may allow cross site scripting attacks if you have it enabled and have a script with errors.

You can turn this on,off, maximum etc if you go to global configurations and under the server tab you find the settings for it.

Error Reporting

You can also change this with a php.ini file if needed.

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#254227

<em>@Menalto 59833 wrote:</em><blockquote>This is usefull to have on to debug or develop a site, but on a live site set it to off. On some php versions it may allow cross site scripting attacks if you have it enabled and have a script with errors.

You can turn this on,off, maximum etc if you go to global configurations and under the server tab you find the settings for it.

Error Reporting

You can also change this with a php.ini file if needed.</blockquote>

Thanks Menalto:

So what you are saying is this:

It should be normal to see this Code Red (i.e., On) during the installation and while I am dealing with debugging.

But, once I am satisfied with the site (no more errors), I should turn it off =>Otherwise, the visitor would also see the errors in the Front End?

Is the back end, affected by this being turned Off. In other words, if it is OFF, can I still see the errors in the Back End if there is any error? Or, more?

Cornelio

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#254234

Yes, if your site have some errors in the frontend you can some times turn “off” the error message by set Error Reporting to none.

One other nice thing about the backend is if you go to the system tab and there you see Debug Settings, if you set Debug System to yes you will also get some diagnose about your site, sql etc:
This is from Teline quick start package i have installed:

Profile Information
Application afterLoad: 0.002 seconds, 0.27 MB
Application afterInitialise: 0.096 seconds, 2.67 MB
Application afterRoute: 0.123 seconds, 3.30 MB
Application afterDispatch: 0.339 seconds, 6.48 MB
Application afterRender: 0.795 seconds, 7.77 MB
Memory Usage
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#254281

Thanks Menalto,

I browsed over the list below, but am afraid, understanding the debugging log(???) overwhelms me at this stage. That is why you would be critical in the project we were discussing in private.

Today however, while installing a new Joomla 1.0.x and Joomla 1.5x QuickStart kits. I decided to monitor how much diskspace is being used by each.

I was astonished by how much the QuickStart kit actually used up. I have to check, but I do not think I turned on the Frontpage script on. I understand that further bloats the site, if turned on.

But now that I see your diskspace usage, I am concerned that my values are much much higher.

Zip files:

Joomla_1.0.15-Stable-Full_Package.zip => 2.7Mb
JA Teline II v1.2 for Joomla 1.0.x.zip => 7.6Mb
Joomla_1.5.3-Stable-Full_Package.zip => 5.3Mb
JA Teline II v1.3 for Joomla 1.5.x.zip => 10.52 Mb
JA Teline II contributes almost 5Mb to either Joomla.

Joomla 1.0x-JA Teline II unpacked files

Unpacked files, after uploading

Data from diskspace usage of new subdomain (with its own Control Panel)
0.18 MB => New (subdomain) site
10.18 Mb => after uploading unpacked ja_teline_ii_1.0kstart_v1.2 (~10Mb)
50.69 Mb => after uploading unpacked ja_teline_ii_qui_v1.3_1.5.3 (~40Mb)
=> after adding dbname and user (not much change in Mb)
50.28 => after installation of Joomla 1.0x and removal of installation folder
=> ja_teline_ii -Joomla 1.0.15 (~10 – 0.41= 9.6Mb))
47.43 Mb => after installation of Joomla 1.5x and removal of installation folder)
=> ja_teline_ii -Joomla 1.5.3 (~40 – 2.85= 37.2Mb)

The information you provided seems to be more close to the zip file for the JA Teline II v1.2 for Joomla 1.0.x.zip, rather than the unpacked file (10Mb).

The values for ja_teline_ii -Joomla 1.5.3 are even much higher ( 37.2Mb after installation).

Is the data that you provided below for ja_teline_ii -Joomla 1.5.3? If so, it looks like the files in your server, are re-zipped?

What is causing this discrepancies between your values and mine?

Cornelio

<em>@Menalto 59858 wrote:</em><blockquote>Yes, if your site have some errors in the frontend you can some times turn “off” the error message by set Error Reporting to none.

One other nice thing about the backend is if you go to the system tab and there you see Debug Settings, if you set Debug System to yes you will also get some diagnose about your site, sql etc:
This is from Teline quick start package i have installed:

Profile Information
Application afterLoad: 0.002 seconds, 0.27 MB
Application afterInitialise: 0.096 seconds, 2.67 MB
Application afterRoute: 0.123 seconds, 3.30 MB
Application afterDispatch: 0.339 seconds, 6.48 MB
Application afterRender: 0.795 seconds, 7.77 MB
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[ritzcruz6 Friend ritzcruz6Join date: May 2008Posts: 3Downloads:0Uploads:0]

#254509

Hi

I am running Teline 2 with Joomla 1.5.3 install. I set display errors to on and now I am receiving the following error message above the login and registration buttons.

Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /var/www/engsites/wpsites/modules/mod_login/helper.php on line 25

Additionally, when I click on the create an account button on the front end, REGISTER_REQUIRED appears above the create an account button in the account creation form.

Any help would greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ritz

[cgc0202 Friend cgc0202Join date: August 2007Posts: 2244Downloads:0Uploads:3 Thanks: 206 Thanked: 262 times in 1 posts]

#254511

<em>@ritzcruz6 60187 wrote:</em><blockquote>Hi

I am running Teline 2 with Joomla 1.5.3 install. I set display errors to on and now I am receiving the following error message above the login and registration buttons.

Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /var/www/engsites/wpsites/modules/mod_login/helper.php on line 25

Additionally, when I click on the create an account button on the front end, REGISTER_REQUIRED appears above the create an account button in the account creation form.

Any help would greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ritz</blockquote>

Hi Ritz,

Try the solution suggested by Menalto, above. Basically, when you are assured that you have debugged your site, Turn Off the “Display Errors” — see details from Menalto’s first response here. If it does not work, send a PM to Menalto.

Cornelio

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