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[snfctech Friend snfctechJoin date: February 2009Posts: 11Downloads:0Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 1 times in 1 posts]

#138028

My marketing department just purchased a membership with Joomlart because they liked the Rochea template. Now I have to modify it.

Two issues so far:

1. The front-end editor overlaps the right container (from a default Quickstart installation). I found a thread in this forum about this – it has not been answered in over a year.

2. I think calling your menu a “dropline” is a bit misleading. Most drop-lines I’ve seen are mouse-over JS. The Rochea “dropline” actually requires you to click/submit in order to display the sub-navigation. I don’t suppose there is simply an option somewhere to enable the mouse-over sub-nav behavior?

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[John Wesley Brett Moderator John Wesley BrettJoin date: July 2013Posts: 2142Downloads:17Uploads:26 Thanks: 175 Thanked: 645 times in 426 posts]

#290801

With regard to issue #1: Front-end editors in Joomla are renowned for the overlap. This is primarily because the width of the editor is determined mostly by its tool icons…and not the template. If you reduce the number of tools on the second line (in the Administrative area) you should be able to pull the width back in. Front-end editors were supposed to be used just for basic editing…not for high level editing which all the tools allow you to do.

Best way to work it is to reduce the icons to the minimum number on the front-end and leave the heavy lifting for editing in the Administrator area.

As for #2: You are correct in that most mouse-over…and editing the JavaScript will allow you to do that if you are so inclined.

Hope this helps.
John.

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[mj1256 Friend mj1256Join date: June 2007Posts: 1473Downloads:10Uploads:35 Thanks: 84 Thanked: 225 times in 118 posts]

#290826

If you install JCE, there is the ability to set the height and width of the editor to some extent. You would still need to reduce the number of icon, but once reduced, you can set the width manulaly in the jce utilities module

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[imsleepy Friend imsleepyJoin date: January 2009Posts: 451Downloads:0Uploads:0 Thanks: 94 Thanked: 45 times in 1 posts]

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<em>@snfctech 111294 wrote:</em><blockquote>1. The front-end editor overlaps the right container (from a default Quickstart installation). I found a thread in this forum about this – it has not been answered in over a year.

2. I think calling your menu a “dropline” is a bit misleading. Most drop-lines I’ve seen are mouse-over JS. The Rochea “dropline” actually requires you to click/submit in order to display the sub-navigation. I don’t suppose there is simply an option somewhere to enable the mouse-over sub-nav behavior?</blockquote>

Problem 1: Unless you are using a liquid width template, no matter what template you are using, the front end editor will almost always overlap on the right. I don’t know that I have found this to be a real problem though. Generally the person using the editor is busy editing and not really interested in what is on the right sidebar. Unless it is causing actual issues with the ability to edit the page, I would not worry too much about this. It’s just the nature of the beast and has been since I used Mambo years ago. I agree with post from jbret <blockquote>Best way to work it is to reduce the icons to the minimum number on the front-end and leave the heavy lifting for editing in the Administrator area.</blockquote>

Problem 2: I am not familiar with your template, I am using Teline II. I am using the Dropline menu and it does show the different submenus on mouse-over.

Double check this setting… in your template manager, click on your template name. In the parameters check to see if you are set for Dropline Menu. Split Menu also shows the “dropline” submenu, but does not have the mouse over effect you are looking for. You must click on the parent item and go to that page before you see the submenu choices. Sounds like you might be set on Split Menu and not Dropline Menu.

Hope this helps.

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[snfctech Friend snfctechJoin date: February 2009Posts: 11Downloads:0Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 1 times in 1 posts]

#290931

Wow. Prompt, thorough and polite replies. Haven’t seen that on a forum for a while. Thanks. 😉

@imsleepy: Turns out there are three options for the Rochea template: split, “css” and transparent. And, yes, it was set to split – but there is no “dropline” option. For some reason the user guide for Roche shows “dropline” as an option in the css (suckerfish?) example.

So it sounds like other Joomlart templates have the true mouseover dropline – but not Rochea (even though it talks about “dropline”).

Any suggestions for the quickest/easiest fix? I was thinking of replacing the Rochea mainmenu with a dropline menu module, rather than make some JS modifications to the Rochea code.

[imsleepy Friend imsleepyJoin date: January 2009Posts: 451Downloads:0Uploads:0 Thanks: 94 Thanked: 45 times in 1 posts]

#290942

In your Rochea template folder you will find a file called templateDetails.xml

Find the line that looks something like this (this is from my template):

<option value="none">Disable</option>
<option value="split">Split Menu</option>
<option value="css">CSS Menu</option>
<option value="moo">Moo Menu</option>
<option value="dl">Dropline Menu</option>

Add the one in red to your list. It may or may not work. I did this awhile back to another template and it did work, but I don’t know if it will work in your case. If it doesn’t work let me know.

[snfctech Friend snfctechJoin date: February 2009Posts: 11Downloads:0Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 1 times in 1 posts]

#290944

Thanks again for your prompt reply, imsleepy.

The Rochea template menu options look like this:


<option value="1">Split Menu</option>
<option value="2">CSS Menu</option>
<option value="3">Transparent Menu</option>


Adding a fourth option with value=”d1″ doesn’t help. Looking in the ja_menus directory, I only see the first three menu options available.

[imsleepy Friend imsleepyJoin date: January 2009Posts: 451Downloads:0Uploads:0 Thanks: 94 Thanked: 45 times in 1 posts]

#290946

Try changing to <option value “4”>Dropline Menu</option>

In the meantime, I am off to download your template. Will probably take about half hour to see what to do.

Are you using Joomla 1.0 or 1.5?

[snfctech Friend snfctechJoin date: February 2009Posts: 11Downloads:0Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 1 times in 1 posts]

#290947

Tried value=”4″ as well, no dice.

Thanks!

[imsleepy Friend imsleepyJoin date: January 2009Posts: 451Downloads:0Uploads:0 Thanks: 94 Thanked: 45 times in 1 posts]

#290949

Ok I downloaded the template. I see why it is not an option. It is not included in the template. When I made the change it worked because I already had the menu included in the ja_menus folder from another template I loaded. It would take adding several files and a few modifications to include dropline in this template. It can be done, but much work.

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#290950

Thanks for trying, imsleepy. I didn’t see a dropline menu as part of the Joomlart available extensions, so it looks like I would have to just copy over the files from another template and make the modifications. It’s unfortunate this template didn’t include it. I suppose copying the files/ modifying from another Joomlart tempalte would be better than integrating an un-related dropline module from somewhere else.

Any suggestions for a Joomlart template, similar to Rochea, that actually comes with a mouse-over style dropline?

[imsleepy Friend imsleepyJoin date: January 2009Posts: 451Downloads:0Uploads:0 Thanks: 94 Thanked: 45 times in 1 posts]

#290968

Unfortunately, no suggestions for similar menu, but I would think you could add the dropline files from any template that has it. You will need to update a few other files to include the dropline menu function. The modifications needed to make it look like yours would be in the css files I believe. I would think you could use the Split menu as the css template for the dropline since it already includes a dropline like feature.

My best advice to you would be to start a new thread asking for specific help from a member with experience at modifying the menus. It’s really not a difficult modification, you just want to make sure that all of the files that need modified are covered.

What you are looking for is advice and help adding the dropline menu option to your template.

[snfctech Friend snfctechJoin date: February 2009Posts: 11Downloads:0Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 1 times in 1 posts]

#291003

Thanks, imsleepy. I started a new thread, here: http://www.joomlart.com/forums/topic/chicago-blackhawks-vs-tampa-bay-lightning-live/.

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#291005

Hopefully one of the developers will see your new post and be able to offer assistance. The reason I suggested new post was because this one has so many replies they are liable to overlook it thinking it is being resolved. I am going to go ahead and fiddle around a little more and see if I can come up with a solution for you that is fairly easy. For me, it’s fairly easy and I would offer help except I am afraid I might miss updating a key file that I am not aware of. Most of the developers I am sure are very familiar with all of the files that go along with the menus and you would want it done right.

If I do come up with the right answer and it is a fairly easy solution, I will let you know if someone else doesn’t have a solution for you. My guess is you will have a solution very soon since you laid out everything so well in your new post.

Good luck to you.

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