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[jennx Friend jennxJoin date: July 2008Posts: 41Downloads:0Uploads:0 Thanks: 2]

#138732

Hi,

We have 5 articles that show up via the Frontpage module. We don’t want these articles to show up in the regular news section on the homepage at the same time as they show up in Frontpage because then the articles will be shown twice on the home page. However, when a new article is added to the Frontpage and pushes the 5th article off the Frontpage area, we’d like it to automatically start showing up in the News area on the homepage. Is this possible?

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#294240

Hi jennx

By default, if you publish an article to the Front page, it won’t show in the regular News section (JA News).

If you then mark it as ‘not’ front page, it should then drop back into the regular news section. The only issue with that is if it’s older than some other articles in that same regular News section, then it won’t appear ‘top’ or lead article in that Section.

One way to get around that is when you remove it from Front Page and it drops back into regular news is to modify the published date to today’s date, then it should appear top of that section in the regular news area.

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#294325

What Chris stated is correct. You can partly do this by answering “No”, in the News module, to the question (Show front page article) whether you want them to appear in both Frontpage and News. If you answer “No” though, you have to manually access then uncheck Frontpage — via the individual article edit — to ensure that an article disappears from the Frontpage and may appear in the News section.

I had as bold the last phrase because it depends now on the choice you made in”Order” in the News module. I have not explored this in detail, but if I am not mistaken, the articles in the News section by default are subdivided based on the category classification. Then, the script selects one from each category. Further, the way they are arranged would be how you ordered the Categories, not by chrological order.

Thus, an older article may appear first, because its category is a higher order than the category of a newer article. It will then select one from another category, etc.

That is for the Homepage layout. It is even worst in the News section intro page itself, if you chose the default Order. Experiment a bit, and your best bet might be to use the “Date Created”, or if you want to influence the order, select “Date modified”. The latter will not affect the actual data on the creation and published date.

I have not paid much attention to this, but this is one of the flaws of the current Teline II as a news magazine template.

A better choice would have been the situation for the News Section would be what is feasible in the FrontPage module, where the default is always chronological — the latest at the top, but then you can further rearrange the default chronological order by rearranging them manually. This is critical because the latest news among many, based on your entry would not be the most important that you might want to see appearing first. Again, the only way to fool the system now, is to select “Date modified”, as suggested by Chris.

Also, one feature that I would have wanted for more complex news-magazine is the choice to have one article linked in multiple sections (or categories), much like it is done now with professional commercial papers, like the New York Times. This capability is not possible now with Teline II

Cornelio

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#294331

This is a bummer. Is there anyway to change this so that articles that no longer appear in the Frontpage module (because they’re 6th and only the top 5 will show up) to automatically show up in the News module on the home page? We’re pretty much displaying everything on the Frontpage when they’re first published, but then we would want them to automatically drop down to the News module when they’re circulated out.

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#294344

Well, I would be interested for the solution too. In fact, if you do not undo the “FrontPage” check in the article, old articles keep on piling in the Admin FrontPage list — even if the extra articles would not show in the FrontPage itself.

What would be an easy “palliative” solution would have been if the FrontPage list of articles in the Admin, would be a column called “FrontPage” so that when you uncheck it, it will not longer appear in the Admin FrontPage list..

The best automatic solution would be once the set number of articles is exceeded the last in the list will automatically drop out of the Admin FrontPage list.. Anyone from Joomlart listening?

I started a new thread I believe in mid February(?) requesting members to include in their list, what they think should be the features we want to included in the next upgrade of Teline II. This should be included there.

Cornelio

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#294348

<em>@cgc0202 115728 wrote:</em><blockquote>The best automatic solution would be once the set number of articles is exceeded the last in the list will automatically drop out of the Admin FrontPage list.. Anyone from Joomlart listening?
</blockquote>

Too right Cornelio … the case is even worse with multi-language sites. For instance, I have four front page articles in English, Russian and French. They ALL appear in the list in Front Page Manager, and that’s not even the worst, there is no way of identifying which ones are in which language! As you can imagine, this is a nightmare to manage.

An automatic ‘drop-off’ of the lowest place article once the number of articles have been exceeded would be most useful.

Chris

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#294350

questbg;115732Too right Cornelio … the case is even worse with multi-language sites. For instance, I have four front page articles in English, Russian and French. They ALL appear in the list in Front Page Manager, and that’s not even the worst, there is no way of identifying which ones are in which language! As you can imagine, this is a nightmare to manage.

An automatic ‘drop-off’ of the lowest place article once the number of articles have been exceeded would be most useful.

Chris

HI guys
While this is a general question and OT it is Teline related.

I chose not to use Teline in any development site waiting till the bugs or lack of features etc were sorted I continue to see ages after it’s release constant problems with News module and little things that there are member supplied fixes for etc etc. But after all this evidence of problems I never see anything updated modified or implemented in any “patches” for Teline II.

The Teline thread is huge by virtue of it’s flaws rather than features? Surely it’s time for JA to sit up and take notice of the need for a total revamp of all problematic modules and make Teline III even though many don’t use it.

Guess what I’m saying is if it were revised and fixed many of us would use it etc
Just an observation
ShannonN

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#294352

<em>@questbg 115732 wrote:</em><blockquote>Too right Cornelio … the case is even worse with multi-language sites. For instance, I have four front page articles in English, Russian and French. They ALL appear in the list in Front Page Manager, and that’s not even the worst, there is no way of identifying which ones are in which language! As you can imagine, this is a nightmare to manage.

An automatic ‘drop-off’ of the lowest place article once the number of articles have been exceeded would be most useful.

Chris</blockquote>

Chris,

I hope Joomlart will listen.

If you examine the JA News module, once you set number of files to appear in the module, the rest will just not just appear in each section module anymore. You might be able to tap this property of the JA News module, to solve your trilingual paper.

Shannon,

I think many of us will agree with the problems encountered with Teline II.

I do not know for example, why some good features of its kin, original Teline were not kept in Teline II. For example, for a long time, I have requested that (for almost a year now) that they should have retained the “equal height” of the side by side sections. The result would have been a more aesthetically tidy layout, not the jagged result of the current format of the JA News in Teline II.

We have suffered as a group trying to go over the hurdles for many months trying to fix many of the bugs. With help of people, like Hainn, Menalto, a number of members here, plus very persistent attempts of guys like Chris, gaygiorgia, bossep, and more, I think the significant bugs have been finally resolved sometime in July-August 2008.

There are so many features that I wish it has, like many you take for granted in papers like New York Times, and have suggested them in a number of threads. But, after all is said and done, if you are doing anything that is information rich, whether it be news, travelog, etc., I think Teline II is still the best. My main concern right now is that it is so slow

Cornelio

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#294355

<em>@cgc0202 115736 wrote:</em><blockquote>I think many of us will agree with the problems encountered with Teline II. </blockquote>

I think one of the biggest problems is the Telline II forum stats:

If only 14% of current problems and questions have been responded to, I very much doubt that our cries for implementation of new features will be a high priority!

😉

Chris

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#294736

I have the same problem too.
But what if I have 5 listed articles as features articles.
Now do i publish every day a article.
So if i make a cronjob that looks if a article is 5 days old, and with publish on frontpage on. that script must set all articles older then 5 days on frontpage: NO

This will probably fix this for me i think

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