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<em>@imsleepy 119113 wrote:</em><blockquote>Can you explain further… what is ghosting?</blockquote>
well l do use IE8 and now site looks ok, l will attache JA Teline picture and you can see whats look like on joomlart demo
http://www.joomlart.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4656&stc=1&d=1237580559
<em>@imsleepy 119132 wrote:</em><blockquote>I would like more people to weigh in on this please.
Is the user aware that it goes to compatibility mode? I am a little confused if Microsoft is recommending this fix why would it not be good? It’s their browser. They are of course recommending this as a “quick fix” and showing other ways to eventually bring sites compatible.</blockquote>
From as far I see, the plugin that you can download from the JED turns on the compatibility mode upon detecting it is IE8. This is not what the old IE6 dectectors do, they show a note that the users should upload a new browser.
Now, you can make it easy, with a bit of coding you can change such IE6 plugins to IE8 detectors and the people using IE8 will get same note but this time you tell them that the site does not comply to IE8 yet, you will change it soon but until then they should manually turn on the compatibility mode.
Now, when this code is from Microsoft, I still will not implement it, also when they say one can, as when you reflect on that they just recently did stop their own “automatic IE8 update” because of complaints etc., why should I follow their guidelines in these cases, it completely avoids that any issues I mentioned will ever come up and that I have to explain visitors or clients that Microsoft told me to write this code into my site so that this mode turns on automatically. The people will be stuck on “write this code”, “compat mode”, “MS told me”, and a lot will deny the understanding and this makes you loose credibility and user confidence that your site is professional and legal wise managed by you and not the people you refer to when they ask why this happens on your site.
Worst things to do, same like always only telling your host is bad, the site is not working because your host is bad but you do not change it and simply switch the host. At least when you have sites that have the approach to be 100% professional, you should avoid this. For a local community site or whatever small site, it should be no problem, as the community will understand, but not for sites that need to be stable and where to simply blame someone else for the own faults, only harms the operator, the site owner, the developer, where the competition will love you.
As I want to grab the word perversion, that just came up recently in some other thread here. The whole thing really is nothing about Joomla, it is about CSS and some PHP, so you can’t blame Joomla. The other thing is, I would say it is perversion to rely on some compatibility mode as the one and only solution to make your sites compatible. As think about it, people rate you and your sites also on how you handle such issues and when someone spends time and money to get the own site native IE8 compatible, those are the winners. People who simply place a meta tag and really truly plan never to make the sites native compatible, they will one day be out of business, because as soon more issues like those come up, they would do the same also for other cases.
The perversion is not only created by people who act this way, but also by this, look at a Google Search Screenshot with the search term “how to make your site compatible with IE8”, mostly all of those first only tell you to insert the meta tag that turns on the compat mode automatically. But look at number 2 in the row.
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