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February 17, 2009 at 7:13 am #291921<em>@wooohanetworks 112719 wrote:</em><blockquote>The server is in Houston, TX, referring to the server whois, that should be Rochenhost.com, lol:D</blockquote>
Oh well so much for my assumptions… still not JA’s fault. I went through a few hosts whose servers were in TX, one in FL, two in OH, and one in PA. All had big problems.
Always wind up back at GoDaddy. Haven’t left them now in 4 years and I have no complaints at all. Perfect hosting.
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February 17, 2009 at 7:36 am #291927<em>@imsleepy 112726 wrote:</em><blockquote>Oh well so much for my assumptions… still not JA’s fault. I went through a few hosts whose servers were in TX, one in FL, two in OH, and one in PA. All had big problems.
Always wind up back at GoDaddy. Haven’t left them now in 4 years and I have no complaints at all. Perfect hosting.</blockquote>
Take care with your words, lol, here are some members who say GD not a real host, as they say only because the security functions of GD Servers and some other good things that lead a professional Joomla Webmaster to some more work is making them the pest in the business…
I can only laugh about that indeed. BTW, the forum at Joomla.org is very slow too, same issues like with this site, and I guess to my “99,9%” that Rochenhost is the reason, Joomla.org is for sure hosted with them, the admin is from Rochenhost, lol, so I would say, Joomlart.com and also most of the other Joomla related clubs host with Rochen as they and so on, also when it may not be the best option.
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February 17, 2009 at 7:47 am #291929<em>@imsleepy 112712 wrote:</em><blockquote>I think if you look at the forum posts “Today’s Posts” you will see a gap of many hours that the forums were down today (for me that is Feb 16). Yesterday… (for me that was Feb 15)… the demos and downloads were down for many hours.
I believe the reason I see this is because of my timezone. The times when I notice this are usually late evening on the east coast (US) which would be the wee hours of the morning in Europe. I don’t think much of it because since I am assuming this site is based in UK, it would seem a logical time for server and site maintenance.
On the other hand, if it hasn’t been standard maintenance that has been causing this downtime, then possibly JA needs to look into what is going on with their server during these times. Maybe there is a problem they are unaware of since it would have been the “wee hours” their local time if they are indeed based in UK.
Below is the time gap I am mentioned above. As you can see, there were 6 1/2 hrs with no posts logged. Forums were down. I gave up and left so I don’t know if anything else was down or just the forums.
Problem jaslideshow not working ( 1 2) snarzom Today 03:00 AM by jsliao 16 43 JA Sanidine & JA Sanidine II
Problem Ja_Newsflash image margin codger Yesterday 08:24 PM by codger 8 29 JA Teline II</blockquote>
Yes today it was a complete server IP black-out, but read some of the earlier posts, you will see that some have those issues, some never had, and one can guees it may be the location, state, population and client request density that makes it. From the server whois you see like each app. 20% come from the USA and Germany, compared to the size of the USA, Germany is as large as one state alone and all requests from here come from like one state of the USA, that someone in a small state like Oregon in the USA with probably not so many JA Members, experiences no problems makes me see my proposal as somehow realistic. Otherwise others who are also from states with not so high population density also experience those problems, makes me wonder if it is by fact about how many request from any single state come and the related use of broadband, what provider and so on and so on, if I’d be Google or Yahoo, I’d spend my day with nothing else than this, lol…Endless theory, but no way to get the facts when not being Google or like Yahoo, so enough of this.
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February 17, 2009 at 7:50 am #291930I am in Alaska… what do you want to bet I am only one of a handful (if that) of Alaskans on JA? Maybe the only one in the whole state?
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February 17, 2009 at 8:24 am #291942<em>@imsleepy 112739 wrote:</em><blockquote>I am in Alaska… what do you want to bet I am only one of a handful (if that) of Alaskans on JA? Maybe the only one in the whole state?</blockquote>
No, isn’t the member jimmer also from there and also the lady who wanted to be vice president, I forgot her name again, Sarah Palin, lol.
Listen, 20% all over the United States, and 20% all over Germany. Germany as small as Texas makes a different type of logic for electronic services like server software etc.. You get all requests, all of the 20% from Germany from one condensed location (and when a server has some routines to sort out requests by geographic location when the performance is going down) like when all request of the 20% from the USA come from Alaska. Now when, hypothetically, someone in Germany often has those problems with the site and people in regions where only 0.1% of the whole 20% that are spread all over a huge continent like the USA are requesting the site and have no issues, then it must be the reason. NOW, listen again, you are in Alaska, do you know what way your signal takes before, what data center in Alaska processes your request and forwards it to what other larger data center until it is going over a potential third router to somehow reach the server in Houston, TX? Is Alaskan ISP same as all the others, as there are large rural areas in this state? How is it when someone in Los Angeles or Miami or New York uses the site and never has problems, and the ISP has some other infrastructure than those in Alaska? It could be the density of requests from one country by size or the quality of internet ISPs. All those and a lot more factors CAN have an influence on if a user has good or bad access to the site. Still, we are both no pros, so this is from logic and information one gets, again, on the internet, mostly, lol! That is why I meant, enough of this…;) But, the best servers will never have such problems and so also not the sites hosted with, regardless all those potential factors, that is clear I think.
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February 17, 2009 at 8:38 am #291948Our connection gets bogged down in Anchorage and again in Seattle. Just part of living here. Always slow. I am in the Alaska bush. Remote village of 41 people. We have wireless internet, but it’s more like fast dialup speed. VERY SLOW! Example… took me 8 hrs to do Quickstart Install, that was just uploading all the files via FTP. Actual install time once the files were uploaded, just minutes. This is why I asked so many questions before deciding to dump everything and do Quickstart install of Cooper. Didn’t want to waste my time with Quickstart if template would not do what I needed.
But… questions weren’t answered because right after I asked them forums went down… so did the Quickstart install anyway. Now I find out I have the problems I was afraid I would have…. little problems, very little, probably easy to fix, but no answers.
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February 17, 2009 at 8:45 am #291950<em>@imsleepy 112761 wrote:</em><blockquote>Our connection gets bogged down in Anchorage and again in Seattle. Just part of living here. Always slow. I am in the Alaska bush. Remote village of 41 people. We have wireless internet, but it’s more like fast dialup speed. VERY SLOW! Example… took me 8 hrs to do Quickstart Install, that was just uploading all the files via FTP. Actual install time once the files were uploaded, just minutes. This is why I asked so many questions before deciding to dump everything and do Quickstart install of Cooper. Didn’t want to waste my time with Quickstart if template would not do what I needed.
But… questions weren’t answered because right after I asked them forums went down… so did the Quickstart install anyway. Now I find out I have the problems I was afraid I would have…. little problems, very little, probably easy to fix, but no answers.</blockquote>
41 people? There I ultimately have the social economical question, or thought that there must be some definite reason why this remote village exists. Yes, seriously, when I hear that, it only can be that you either live in an outpost or an historical village, or a lumberjack town, a must for the industry or supplies could not get through etc.. The reason why I have this thought is always, “you could easiely move to the next larger town” without having any problems with your internet for example. Simply crazy, I live in a city that hosts millions of people though…crazy difference.:)
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February 17, 2009 at 8:48 am #291951<em>@wooohanetworks 112763 wrote:</em><blockquote>41 people? There I ultimately have the social economical question, or thought that there must be some definite reason why this remote village exists. Yes, seriously, when I hear that, it only can be that you either live in an outpost or an historical village, or a lumberjack town, a must for the industry or supplies could not get through etc.. The reason why I have this thought is always, “you could easiely move to the next larger town” without having any problems with your internet for example. Simply crazy, I live in a city that hosts millions of people though…crazy difference.:)</blockquote> But, I guess, when someone is the only one with a JA Account and no one knows what JA is, life should be pretty boring sometime…:(( Or all know what JA is and as you have an account, they all hang outside your home at your window and try to catch what do or so…like I said, **** crazy difference. Me as a city slicker, I’d kick the laptop away and live in a bunkhouse in the woods I guess or get me a villa with spa when I’d the money for it….:D
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February 17, 2009 at 8:49 am #291952<em>@imsleepy 112761 wrote:</em><blockquote>Our connection gets bogged down in Anchorage and again in Seattle. Just part of living here. Always slow. I am in the Alaska bush. Remote village of 41 people. We have wireless internet, but it’s more like fast dialup speed. VERY SLOW! Example… took me 8 hrs to do Quickstart Install, that was just uploading all the files via FTP. Actual install time once the files were uploaded, just minutes. This is why I asked so many questions before deciding to dump everything and do Quickstart install of Cooper. Didn’t want to waste my time with Quickstart if template would not do what I needed.
But… questions weren’t answered because right after I asked them forums went down… so did the Quickstart install anyway. Now I find out I have the problems I was afraid I would have…. little problems, very little, probably easy to fix, but no answers.</blockquote>
Why are you not using WAMP to test everything out on your local machine? Saves all that nasty mucking about FTP uploading malarky. I can do a quickstart install in under a minute that way.
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February 17, 2009 at 8:50 am #291953No “easy” way to move…. have to go by plane every where. No roads come here. Villages like mine are all over Alaska, some have fewer people. My question is when you can live someplace peaceful and no crime, why would you live in a city? We don’t lock doors, no one steals from anyone, no one goes hungry or homeless. Water and air are clean and there is no noise pollution. Cost of living is low (except oil at $6.79 per gallon). No one is in a hurry here… no place to go… no stress though either. Best place on the planet!!! 😀
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February 17, 2009 at 8:52 am #291955<em>@phill luckhurst 112766 wrote:</em><blockquote>Why are you not using WAMP to test everything out on your local machine? Saves all that nasty mucking about FTP uploading malarky. I can do a quickstart install in under a minute that way.</blockquote>
WAMP? :confused: I keep hearing people talk about no live site because they are testing on local computer… was wondering what that was all about.
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February 17, 2009 at 8:55 am #291959Those people who say they are testing on local servers are probably using dodgy portaliz scripts;)
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February 17, 2009 at 9:00 am #291961<em>@phill luckhurst 112773 wrote:</em><blockquote>http://www.wampserver.com/en/
Those people who say they are testing on local servers are probably using dodgy portaliz scripts;)</blockquote>
Going to bed soon… after midnight…. but I can’t say THANK YOU enough times for that link. This looks like it is amazing! Can’t wait to play with it tomorrow.
One question… of course… I am always full of questions… if I use this doodad to build a Joomla site, can the site then be easily transfered to my live URL or do I have to start over from scratch?
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February 17, 2009 at 9:17 am #291965<em>@phill luckhurst 112773 wrote:</em><blockquote>http://www.wampserver.com/en/
Those people who say they are testing on local servers are probably using dodgy portaliz scripts;)</blockquote>
Bull, maybe a few do that, I simply do not share my treasures with any public entity if this forum or any other…Also, my type of person or company keeps with confidentiality for several reasons I explained earlier as some member came up he sees no reason why not to post any site in a forum. Either the client would be very unhappy about me even needing help from a forum, letting people work on the site I have no contracts with and never met before for real or wanting to showcase his or her site in any type of public forum if with member access only or not.
One other thing is that it makes no sense to route useless traffic to live sites. Sites in development by clients of own ones need no viewers. Also those “very funny” fun hackers can afford a membership in any club and there were and are cases where one rather avoids to post an own site or especially a clients one in any forum where people can gather information better than google about sites, especially when people come up with security issues of their sites and have a live url present. Good belief is not what should be present in any case.
Just the common sense as soon something is business, though, nothing else. That some people use scripts is sure but those who are members here and mention they do not share live urls or have it on a local server, they use the legal ones they pay for, by logic, and most people here only ask such questions in the member forums.:) The ones who do not, who cares, this is not my or our business to hunt them down or whatever, shall they mess with the hidden spyware and viruses those warez may come with. That is not our problem for real.
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February 17, 2009 at 9:20 am #291966<em>@imsleepy 112775 wrote:</em><blockquote>Going to bed soon… after midnight…. but I can’t say THANK YOU enough times for that link. This looks like it is amazing! Can’t wait to play with it tomorrow.
One question… of course… I am always full of questions… if I use this doodad to build a Joomla site, can the site then be easily transfered to my live URL or do I have to start over from scratch?</blockquote>
“Simply” transferred…simply as there are some things one has to adjust, if in the configuration.php or access permission etc..
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