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#127699

Joomla Views publishes another JA template review, this time on JA Fedora.

I realize that there will be some bumped feelings, but this template utterly failed to impress, I am really putting all my faith on JA Teline II.

You can find the brutally honest review @ http://www.joomlaviews.com/joomla-articles/template-reviews/joomlart-fedora-review-2008041996.html

Best Regards,

Tony Lindskog
Editor-in-Chief
Joomla Views

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#246066

The review was accurate… There are free templates out there that are better done than that one……

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#246105

Shackbase has anyone here asked for your views?

I only ask because you seem to only review JoomlArts products why are you not slagging off or praising Rocket themes or any of the other template companies?

Are you just using this site to publicise your own?

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#246107

Actually, we are doing reviews on other things than JoomlArt and up til JA Fedora, JoomlArt templates have been getting a decent score because they were great templates.

We are working on covering both RocketTheme and YooTheme templates in the very near future, and FYI – I asked if it was ok for me to cross post JoomlArt reviews and was told it was more than ok.

Plus – a review is a feedback, wouldn’t you agree?

I do believe this forum is called ‘Official JoomlArt Website – Feedback/Information’, right?

Cheers,

–Tone

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#246109

In fairness though, maybe you should move this to customer testimonials, so you are right, I may have posted it to the wrong forum.

Cheers,

–Tone

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#246110

It seems you are simply trying to promote your own website, which in fairness is not the same as a customers feedback

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#246111

Thats interesting, first time you’ve complained about it and it’s also the first time I have thought that the offering of JA was basically a free looking template.

Either way, it is a customer feedback wether I link to an official review or if I flat out say that the first April 2008 JA template was a poor excuse for grabbing peoples money in the forum.

Like I said, please move this to customer testimonials if you would like to.

Best Regards,

Tony Lindskog
Editor-in-Chief
Joomla Views

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#246113

Shack which of your sites are using the JA Fedora template?

Or is your full and honest review based on a quick glance and a read of what our members are saying?
If you have not installed and used all the templates you are reviewing how can I or anyone else who looks at your site take what you say as an accurate account of the template.

Can you point me to a website which shows where you have tested all these templates you have reviewed….and what makes you an official review?

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#246116

Of course I have installed the templates that I review, and the reviews are not based on anything from this forum, what good would that do?

http://demo.ijoomlahost.com/fedora/ – if you looked at our reviews, you would notice there is always a link to our installation of each template, the fact that you did not know that shows that you have not even bothered looking at our reviews.

The ratings are based on a scoring criteria for the number of layouts, colors, modules and extras plus a more subjective score for design.

There is a similar set of criterias for Joomla extensions to keep the scoring from being a purely subjective concept.

I like JoomlArt, I wouldn’t have spent a lot of money on getting a Developers license if I didn’t, and most of the JA template has had a great quality; JA Fedora did not meet that quality and got bashed for it, rightfully so.

Teline is one of the highlights of JoomlArt’s creative designs, so I have a great expectation for Teline II tomorrow Monday.

Tony

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#246118

The release of Fedora was the worst release i can think about and should not been released the time it was released. After a discussion with Hung about it we came up with that a release of a template should not come in the weekends(as with Teline ||, monday for it).

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#246119

Totally agree Menalto as I said at the time I think the bugs in the first release were because JoomlArt tried to get the Template out before the weekend to try and keep people happy….but I can not see how this can be put in a review of a template

quote “took days to mop up the problems from the initial launch.”

and using the forum as ammo

quote “what can we say about JA Fedora? Sadly, not a lot. It was not greeted with a lot of enthusiasm by the JoomlArt club members,”

What has any of that got to do with a template review??

I know everyone is entitled to thier views so you say what you like Shack its up to people to take anything you say with any regard

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#246123

@menalto, Absolutely, it was a disaster in the making and I would assume that there were a lot of lessons learned with that release, topple that with the fact that Fedora was far from the quality we have found and expect from JA.

I would daresay that it was such a bad template, people should have gotten a 1/2 credit because it did not measure up; but that is not for me to say and obviously that won’t happen so the fact that JA has decided not to launch weekend releases, that is a big step forward and lesson learned.

A Monday is a great day to launch a template, it gives a whole week of final touches and MINOR bug fixes, with Fedora there were major bug fixes.

People spend a lot of money on these templates, no template will appease everyone, but there are certain things that will help things in the right direction.

A few more color choices, the text logo option, a couple 2-3 layouts, usable modules, easy to modify template variables, these are things that truly make it easy for people to adapt the modules into their own designs and JA for the most part keep a high quality on these things.

@mfc – are you trying to pick on me for some reason?

The comment about mopping up the problems from the initial launch and the the lackluster approval from the club members was added to the review because we felt the JA Fedora release was a dangerous message how quality control at JA had declined.

And your other obvious statement, of course it is up to anyone to either agree or disagree with our reviews, that is the same thing if you read a review about a big screen tv on Cnet; I am sorry, what is your point again?

The reason people go to Joomla Views to look for product reviews is to find out more and help them make an educated guess if their money is well vested in (as this case is) a template from JoomlArt or get another template somewhere else. It is simple math.

A huge portion of our SE traffic includes the words joomla template review, and thus far, all our template reviews has been JoomlArt related, and I will stress this one more time since you seem to miss that point. Previous JoomlArt reviews have scored those templates high with increased traffic being sent to JA. So stop harping about the one bad review that JA clearly deserved.

We make money from affiliate sales, so it goes to say that if all our reviews showed all reviews as great, it’s pretty clear we would probably make more money (and there are alot of sites that operate that way to get the affiliate commission), but we do not operate that way.

If a template is great, it gets a great review, if it is mediocre, the review will reflect that as well. Our reviews are based on what we feel is right, I could care less what you think, with us the bar is set a little bit higher and we try to show people what is worth their time and what is not.

Tony

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#246128

<em>@shackbase 49572 wrote:</em><blockquote>

@mfc – are you trying to pick on me for some reason?

</blockquote>

absolutley not….

you have the perfect right to say what you like as do the rest of us.

I personaly think your review was very very poor. If you had simply said what you thought about the template that would have been fine but you brought other things in like the bugs in a BETA release, which as I am aware people, know will be fixed in later updates.

Just like you I am entitled to an opinion. 😉

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#246129

Cheers – tit for tat; and as I stated before, I could care less about what you think. 😀

and that template was not relased in a beta status, nothing what so ever stated that the initial release Beta and these bugs were not small, they were huge. AGAIN, you are focusing on just the one review, maybe you should check them out before you post another post.

Fedoras launch was a spectaculiar butched launch, Menalto just agree, Miccas has said something similar and many on the forums agrees. You telling me that you do not think that merrits a mention?

Anyway – lets see what Teline II brings us.

Regards,

Tony Lindskog
Editor-in-Chief
Joomla Views

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#246130

Fact!!! Beta releases read post http://www.joomlart.com/forums/topic/template-release-schedule-updates/ 😀

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