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<em>@jwellman 112931 wrote:</em><blockquote>You’ve got 45 users who are unable to view your menu in FF because it falls behind the slideshow. :(( While you may be leery of JA’s templates, the small work a rounds that are made (to accommodate all browsers) is minor compared to developing a site that completely revolves around IE. I’m secretly hoping IE is on it’s way out! As are many others.</blockquote>

I actually hate that menu. That was one of my attempts to “update” the site easily… only one file to edit. But… every page other than homepage also has the left HTML menu for those who can’t use the javascript menu. Also have a pretty decent sitemap so hopefully all bases are covered.

Many years I used to worry about building for every browser. Got tired of chasing browsers so decided the majority ruled.

FYI, FF is a favorite of my kids as is the Linux operating system. They are the techie crowd though and also don’t visit their Grandpa’s website unless it is school related. They also use all the hand held gizmos and recently started developing a mobile site for our site. Our current site is a nightmare on all the little hand held gizmos. You have to wait forever for it to load and scroll all over the place to find anything. The kids tell me it’s a pretty common problem and more and more mobile sites are emerging so it’s easier to use those gizmos now. I am finding though that a mobile site is a lot like the websites from the 640×480 dialup days. It’s definately a move forward… especially since I am not building it! :p … But if you ask me… they’ve got it easy building WAY backward.

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#292090

Looked at the site, you have done well in bare html to get this far, but with the menu disapearing behind the flash its annoying and any probs in IE may stem from the incorrectly declared doctype forcing the browser into quirks mode; as you know it’s time to change to a more modern site and capabilities

It seems you currently don’t have the knowledge of Joomla and it’s capabilities to change over the site to a joomla version, this fear that it won’t work in every browser back to netscape 2 is really unfounded and unneccessary, if you don’t have the know how simply shell out a few bucks and get Menalto from this forum to do it, he’s a joomla guru and very much a perfectionist, who will get it working in all sensible browsers, that is IE 6, 7 and FF 1.5 up.

any others (older browsers) and well at some stage you have to accept you cannot maintain backward compatibility for the two netscape 2/IE 3 users left in the world and silly resolutions and 8 bit colour combos, I’m suprised you haven’t got the running dog animations and use teh ‘blink’ command on every page just to wow the oldies 🙂 (joke) :),

Re screen size, a fluid site design can handle the 800×600 1024 x 768 which is your target audience. Just tell users the site requirements and you don’t have to field complaints

JUst my 2c
Shannon

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#292134

Well, I’m convinced… Joomla is not right for that website. I am sure I will find other uses for Joomla. The day I have to “simply shell out a few bucks” to have someone build me a template is the day I will quit designing websites.

I am really less worried about a menu problem that affects 45 potential users and more worried about the hundreds of IE users that visit the site.

On the upside, I am glad this decision is finally made. One less website to stress over… time to get back to the business end of things.

Thanks!

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#292136

imsleepy;112984Well, I’m convinced… Joomla is not right for that website. I am sure I will find other uses for Joomla. The day I have to “simply shell out a few bucks” to have someone build me a template is the day I will quit designing websites.

I am really less worried about a menu problem that affects 45 potential users and more worried about the hundreds of IE users that visit the site.

On the upside, I am glad this decision is finally made. One less website to stress over… time to get back to the business end of things.

Thanks!

sorry your ego wont allow you to hand over the more difficult stuff to experts

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#292139

i need to find the article

but the latest browser usage stats i saw for international was

IE combined, 67% ↓
FF 28 % ↑

all the rest 5%

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#292141

sleepy, there are developer kits that you can use to design and build your own joomla templates, I know there is one that integrates well with DW

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#292145

<em>@imsleepy 112929 wrote:</em><blockquote>This website is my Dad’s pride and joy. One day these guys won’t be around anymore. Can’t let them down.</blockquote> Once one, always one…

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#292148

<blockquote>sleepy, there are developer kits that you can use to design and build your own joomla templates, I know there is one that integrates well with DW
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Hi, wouldn’t mind hearing more about these kits. I don’t use Dreamweaver though either. I guess I am a true dinosaur… still using Notepad for everything. I have been in business for 12 years, very good business, but started building websites in the day of the 8088 PC. Before there was Windows on every computer. Time to catch up to this template thing just because I am tired… but this website is no longer a candidate for Joomla. I like my search engine rankings and I really do worry about my visitors. As it stands now, if someone does slip in on Netscape 3, there might be a little mess to deal with, tables not lined up perfectly, script that can’t be read, but I know they can still read the content and that is what the site is all about.

I am currently developing a site for a musician. I think that is probably a better candidate for a Joomla site since it will be a younger more “techie” crowd. I have actually already downloaded Zinc to try out for that one.

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#292149

<em>@wooohanetworks 112999 wrote:</em><blockquote>Once one, always one…</blockquote>

Thanks for that! 🙂

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