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  • nigelta Friend
    June 5, 2008 at 6:52 pm #129350

    Never, ever have I come across such a poorly implemented template. Buggy as hell, the Css is all over the damned place (impossible to change the layout without it changing other things that you don’t want changing).

    To say it is a beta is a limp excuse, I didn’t join the club to buy beta templates – I can produce something this buggy myself and I know nothing about template design.

    I have just spent hour upon hour for the last two weeks trying to get this template to look how I want it, with little success.

    If you ask a question on the forum (I prefer to do this as the response can sometimes help others) you have to wait ages for a reply, if you get one at all.

    Come on Hung, get your act together and get this template sorted so that mere mortals like me can set it up without too much bother.

    aljul Friend
    June 5, 2008 at 9:20 pm #252212

    Sorry for you but I think the template is very good. If you want something different there’s lots of template here, don’t you?

    Bye!

    nigelta Friend
    June 5, 2008 at 11:32 pm #252223

    Well thats a bit of a “didn’t read the post properly” response aljul. Yes there are other templates but they don’t have the magazine layout that this has. I already use another similar component on another site with a great deal of success but wanted to try Joomla 1.5 out this time and the other component isn’t yet ready for it.

    I really like the look of the template but you mustn’t have tried to customise it yet because you wouldn’t have replied with such a coverall statement.

    cgc0202 Friend
    June 5, 2008 at 11:38 pm #252224

    <em>@nigelta 57346 wrote:</em><blockquote>Never, ever have I come across such a poorly implemented template. Buggy as hell, the Css is all over the damned place (impossible to change the layout without it changing other things that you don’t want changing).

    To say it is a beta is a limp excuse, I didn’t join the club to buy beta templates – I can produce something this buggy myself and I know nothing about template design.

    I have just spent hour upon hour for the last two weeks trying to get this template to look how I want it, with little success.

    If you ask a question on the forum (I prefer to do this as the response can sometimes help others) you have to wait ages for a reply, if you get one at all.

    Come on Hung, get your act together and get this template sorted so that mere mortals like me can set it up without too much bother.</blockquote>

    “… I can produce something this buggy myself and I know nothing about template design.…”

    Wow! Really? You can produce a buggy template but cannot modify it?

    What exactly are you trying to do that you were not able to accomplish?

    I have many problems myself with this template, and am not saying that Joomlart template creators or Hung are perfect, but to my knowledge, I have not seen any template that is sold by any of the other “template companies” that comes close to the features of JA Teline II.

    Cornelio

    cgc0202 Friend
    June 5, 2008 at 11:54 pm #252225

    <em>@nigelta 57382 wrote:</em><blockquote>Well thats a bit of a “didn’t read the post properly” response aljul. Yes there are other templates but they don’t have the magazine layout that this has. I already use another similar component on another site with a great deal of success but wanted to try Joomla 1.5 out this time and the other component isn’t yet ready for it.
    .</blockquote>

    As far as I know, I am just starting myself, but many “developer” customers, and other customers here found this JA Teline II, among the best, if not the best, creation so far — as far as news-magazine portals are concerned.

    Can we please show your creation that you have “…already use another similar component on another site with a great deal of success….”

    <em>@nigelta 57382 wrote:</em><blockquote>

    I really like the look of the template but you mustn’t have tried to customise it yet because you wouldn’t have replied with such a coverall statement.</blockquote>

    What we agree upon

    Well, it is presumptuous to assume that another person, in this case aljul (from his response above) who happens to like the template, “…mustn’t have tried to customise it yet because wouldn’t have replied with such a coverall statement….”

    Basically, you are accusing him (aljul) that he is making a hasty generalization, in his praise of the J/A Teline II, because he might not have suffered like you did?

    Cornelio

    alicebb Friend
    June 6, 2008 at 9:42 am #252299

    We have worked with many templates over the years & have found JA Teline II to be the best we have ever used. It all ‘just works’ The consistent layout & look & feel are done really well plus all the little extra bits of eye candy like the Highslide Login & Search plus modules in Multi Tab User6. We have had to do very little customising but what we have done (a few changes of fontsize & colour) were very straightforward. I really can’t imagine what you are doing if you think it is buggy as hell.

    BTW My Number One Tip for doing any work with CSS is to use Firefox withl FireBug. This allows you to manipulate CSS live onscreen & find exactly where in the CSS things are defined.

    PS I wouldn’t claim that this or any other template is 100% (I have just logged a bug that YouTube crashes Safri in JA Teline II) but this one is way, way better than most.

    nigelta Friend
    June 6, 2008 at 12:55 pm #252328

    Hmm, I seem to be under a barrage here. Let me make a few things clear…….

    <blockquote>Well, it is presumptuous to assume that another person, in this case aljul (from his response above) who happens to like the template, “…mustn’t have tried to customise it yet because wouldn’t have replied with such a coverall statement….”

    Basically, you are accusing him (aljul) that he is making a hasty generalization, in his praise of the J/A Teline II, because he might not have suffered like you did?</blockquote>

    I didn’t accuse anyone of anything, you made that assumption. The response from aljul was vague and bore no connection to my post. I.e. If he likes ice cream, does he like every possible flavour?

    The other comment he made was that there are other templates from Joomlart that I could use. Agreed – but not for the site I am trying to set up. If Ijoomla had their news portal ready for Joomla 1.5 I would look to using it but, as I said previously, I wanted to try Joomla 1.5 out and on the face of it the Teline II template seems to fit the bill. I have not given up on it yet, but I can’t remember taking so long to get the layout working correctly. The Teline II template is difficult to work with for me and admittedly some of the problems I am having may be due to my lack of experience with 1.5 but nevertheless, it is buggy – just look at the number of posts in this forum!

    Alicebb, thank you for the firebug suggestion, I have just installed it and will try it out later to see if that helps me. I was previously using the web developer plugin.

    cgc0202 – I am not really going to post my other website url so that you can pull it to pieces to show what a clever boy (or girl) you are. Needless to say it is featured on the Ijoomla website and stands up very well to its competition.

    cgc0202 Friend
    June 6, 2008 at 2:13 pm #252340

    <em>@nigelta 57503 wrote:</em><blockquote>Hmm, I seem to be under a barrage here. Let me make a few things clear…….</blockquote>

    Hi nigelta,

    I did not expect that there would be a barrage, as you put it. 😉 On behalf of the others, and specially myself, I apologize if it appeared that way. I stand by my perception of how I took your posting though, and criticism of the other poster, how offered a different perspective.

    We may disagree in how we perceive things, but that is reality. Provided we do not cause physical harm or stymie others, there is nothing inherently wrong for people to disagree with each other, or to criticize what was stated, or even the criticism itself. This will be my last repsonse in regard the disagreement in opinion.

    There are many postings in the JA Teline II because many liked it, and is the most popular from what I read in almost the agreement that it is a very good template. Personally, it is not so much the layout but more what it can do. It may be presented as a news-magazine template but it can be adopted for many sites with multi-layered contents. That to me is the strength of JA Teline II.

    If you look at many of the posts though, many of them came from new users who have no background with Joomla or Joomlart templates.

    As many of the others have posted, and I have been one of those clamoring, many of the problems posted here, in the forum, could have been avoided if there were more detailed “How To’s” and “FAQs”, for each template — meant to guid new users or those with minimal or non-existent scripting background, like myself.

    In reality, as I browsed some of the posts here, in an attempt to find answers to my own questions, they were not really bugs, or flaws of the JA Teline template itself (not that it is perfect) but many people, including myself, just did not have the background (in scripting) or Joomla basic knowledge — to know where to begin. I tried to help when I can and know the answer, especially focusing on new users.

    I have been there, and did all the same “errors” report — sometimes it is blamed on the template, actually it is usually the Joomla1.5.x itself. And, let us admit it, sometimes we just failed to read the appropriate “tutorial”. Well, I cannot speak for other, but I will admit guilt to that.

    <em>@nigelta 57503 wrote:</em><blockquote>
    cgc0202 – I am not really going to post my other website url so that you can pull it to pieces to show what a clever boy (or girl) you are. Needless to say it is featured on the Ijoomla website and stands up very well to its competition.</blockquote>

    I have no sense of aesthetic, when it comes to webdesign (specially the layout). Thus,, more than likely, your site would be better than any I have created so far. At least, from those I have seen shared here, the montly contest, and in the showcase forum, that is true — most have better websites than I have ever made. I would never even dare enter my site into any competition here, even in the monthly one by Joomlart.

    I am not aversed to considering other template, if they are better. In fact, it was the suggestion from another forum, that I came to register here so that I could use the original JA Teline. And, in turn, it was the comment of a poster here that led me to explore Gavick. I see both their respective strengths, and flaws. So far, I have not seen a template that was perfect, immediately. It always required tweaking.

    With the aforementioned in mind, to my knowledge, I do not ever recall ” ….[pulling] to pieces (someone else’s) to show what a clever boy [last time I looked), I am…” In fact, some of the Moderators here thought I was either stupid or too lazy to read the basics, especially in the beginning, with the questions I asked.

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    1. bossep
    bossep Friend
    June 6, 2008 at 8:07 pm #252389

    First of all I agree with cgc0202 in most of what he is saying.
    Teline IS acomplicated template and has a lot of CSS on it.
    The lack of documentation and change log does it even harder to work with.
    I dont think the latest ver. is to buggy (well there is a few!) but in my case most errors comes from modify somthing.

    I screw up or I dont understand that changing one thing in a CSS could be devestating in another place. So yes you are right in that nigelta!!
    I think it might be good if the developer who made this template could answer some questions here and perhaps give us some hints.
    Teline is a good template and it is possible to change but without proper documentation it is russian rulete some times.

    I switched from iJomla news as I liked the Teline layout better and more to my taste and it was easier to get the look and feel I like.

    Just my 2 cent on this

    Bosse

    PS No need to insult eachother OR the developers. Lets try to help each other to make this template better!

    bossep Friend
    June 6, 2008 at 8:12 pm #252390

    nigelta,
    What is your problem? I have had my fair share and val, cgc0202, and I might be able to help you.

    Bosse

    terp Friend
    June 9, 2008 at 3:07 am #252609

    <em>@alicebb 57466 wrote:</em><blockquote> It all ‘just works’ </blockquote>

    Really? Yours works? Set the logo to text and hit the various menu items…notice it matches the color for some, for others it does not? Try to use the Ja News for an article with a couple lines of text…and tell me how you get the text to show up on the homepage, as I have to put a BUNCH more lines to get it to pop…or change the location of the picture. I could go on for days, but most people, except you, feel it’s laden with bugs.

    Perhaps you got a secret copy of a working one? I just keep reading “plz wait.” I joined only for this template, as the rest seem all the same week after week (problem with trying to release 2 a month), but I can’t even use it in its current condition…been returning to the forums once a week looking for the “plz wait” update, but just wasting my time (and money).

    Post your site, please. I would love to see it in action on a site that “just works.”

    cgc0202 Friend
    June 9, 2008 at 3:45 am #252616

    <em>@terp 57862 wrote:</em><blockquote>Really? Yours works? Set the logo to text and hit the various menu items…notice it matches the color for some, for others it does not? Try to use the Ja News for an article with a couple lines of text…and tell me how you get the text to show up on the homepage, as I have to put a BUNCH more lines to get it to pop…or change the location of the picture. I could go on for days, but most people, except you, feel it’s laden with bugs.

    Perhaps you got a secret copy of a working one? I just keep reading “plz wait.” I joined only for this template, as the rest seem all the same week after week (problem with trying to release 2 a month), but I can’t even use it in its current condition…been returning to the forums once a week looking for the “plz wait” update, but just wasting my time (and money).

    Post your site, please. I would love to see it in action on a site that “just works.”</blockquote>

    Actually, I have installed quite a few of JA Teline II, and it does work. Most of the problems reported here (some I have helped solve) is mostly because of the user not familiar with how Joomla works. Most of the problems encountered by others were related to the issues of Joomla 1.5.x

    I prefer to use the version for Joomla 1.0x by choice.

    I did report what I thought were bugs, but it turned out, I just missed the instructions for the procedure. The one where one of my installation (which was working as a Demo) got messed up because I was trying to place some Gavick Pro modules. There must be conflict, my JA News module disappeared. I uninstalled and reinstalled, and after setting up the parameters, it worked again.

    Cornelio

    bossep Friend
    June 9, 2008 at 5:14 am #252626

    Hello terp,
    It might be a few bugs in Teline II.
    But check my site out:
    http://www.guatemala-times.com
    I have some stuff disabled and some modifications done to the basic templates but most is pure vanilla.

    If you need help let me know.

    Bosse

    terp Friend
    June 9, 2008 at 5:37 am #252632

    Just off the top of my head, the two biggest errors are 1.) Text logo assumes the color of the section/menu item for some sections, but doesn’t for others…2.) Without a lot of read more text, the Ja news module will render the article with no text on the home page.

    I ran into a number of others, but these were the problems about which I posted.

    terp Friend
    June 9, 2008 at 5:52 am #252636

    <em>@bossep 57883 wrote:</em><blockquote>Hello terp,
    It might be a few bugs in Teline II.
    But check my site out:
    http://www.guatemala-times.com
    I have some stuff disabled and some modifications done to the basic templates but most is pure vanilla.

    If you need help let me know.

    Bosse</blockquote>

    • Mouseover your highslide (in either FF or IE); the whole area jumps around, each of the links is producing a db call and hitting the internet on a mouseover.

    • Line: 174
    • Char: 7
    • Error: ‘document.formvalidator’ is null or not an object (many of us reported this, too)

    I just wanted to check for the formvalidator error, as we have reported this for more than a month…still outstanding issue. Add that to my text logo and content with no text issues.

    I hope Joomlart will go back in and take a look at the code, as this is quite the popular template and the only reason I signed up…like to get a rock solid release, then move on…not interested in anything else has to offer, so perhaps one could see our point-of-view…but fully understand the downside of cranking these things out every two weeks…absurd.

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