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March 25, 2009 at 2:07 am #139548I have seen several people having problems with QuickStart install and GoDaddy hosting. I have had GoDaddy many years and it is a little different, but not difficult.
I hope this little tutorial helps.
Download the QuickStart package for the template you are using from JoomlArt download section. (QuickStart is included in the template download)
Open your GoDaddy Hosting Control Center.
DO NOT use the Joomla install found in the Go Daddy Hosting Connection!!!
You will first need to create a database for your Joomla installation. Click on Databases.
Now click on MySQL.
When your MySQL section opens, click on Create Database.
Follow instructions for creating your new database. Remember, the database name and username are the same.
One you have created the database, it will show on your list. It takes about 15 to 30 minutes for the database to be set up. Once it shows Setup, click on the pencil icon for your database information that you will need to set up your Quickstart install.
During your QuickStart install, you will be asked for the database name, username and password. Remember, your database name and username are the same.
For Host Name, DO NOT use localhost. Use the Host Name shown in your database information.
Extract the zip file for your template to your local machine, open the file named QuickStart and upload all files to your host using FTP client program. DO NOT try to use the GoDaddy FTP Client. There are too many files and they are too large. You must use a stand alone FTP client. I use WS-FTP but there are many out there to choose from.
Once your files are uploaded to your hosting account via FTP, start installation by typing your URL to the quickstart that you have extracted (uploaded), Example http://www.yoursite.com or http://www.yoursite.com/joomlainstallation if you did not upload to the root directory. The installation page should look like a normal Joomla! installation.
Follow the instruction step by step to complete installation process. Remember your database name and username are the same and for Host Name, DO NOT use localhost. Use the Host Name shown in your database information.
While installing, please remember to install Sample Database to have all JoomlArt designed content, module and components settings so your site will look and behave just like the demo.
After you have done your installation. DELETE the folder named installation from your server. Now you are done! Just refresh your site to see changes.
Hope this has helped someone. 😀
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March 25, 2009 at 5:56 am #297821Its interesting to observe that godaddy offers google webmaster tools access also. How do they do that? as it needs a google account. Do godaddy creates a google account for users too? or it just redirects to google account asking the user to create one himself?
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March 25, 2009 at 6:14 am #297822drarvindc;120058Its interesting to observe that godaddy offers google webmaster tools access also. How do they do that? as it needs a google account. Do godaddy creates a google account for users too? or it just redirects to google account asking the user to create one himself?
MJ, wouild you like to relate your experiences for us on GoDaddy hosting and the banging your head on the wall after your efforts to help them become more Joomla /JA User friendly, I don’t think I’m sleepy has read those threads from way back :laugh:
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March 25, 2009 at 6:33 am #297825<em>@ShannonN 120059 wrote:</em><blockquote>MJ, wouild you like to relate your experiences for us on GoDaddy hosting and the banging your head on the wall after your efforts to help them become more Joomla /JA User friendly, I don’t think I’m sleepy has read those threads from way back :laugh:
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You are correct, I have not read the threads from “way back”, do they still matter today? But I also did not post this tutorial as another chance at bashing GoDaddy hosting, only as a way to try and help those having problems with QuickStart install who have chosen to host with GoDaddy. I have been using GoDaddy hosting for over 5 years now and quite happy with them. Sure they aren’t the best, but the price is right and there are worse hosts out there… I know, I have hosted with the worse ones as well.
I had a Mambo site on GoDaddy in 2004 and 2005. Had no problems with the hosting, only the security issues that Mambo had at the time and constant hacking, gave up the idea of CMS. Joomla seems to also be working fine with the GoDaddy hosting, though I am only a couple of months into trying it. So far, no problems that are hosting related.
I guess we can all agree to disagree about hosting companies and then get on with life.
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March 25, 2009 at 6:41 am #297826The hosting panel of godaddy reminds me somewhat of servage.net. In Servage.net also the database is not localhost, it is generated everytime one creates the database. Had lots of problem there, the sites used to be down many times “unable to connect with database”, within 1 month it was unbearable. Shifted to lunarpages, its 2 years now on lunarpages and i dont remeber putting any support ticket for any server related issues at all.
Not sure but may be since the database hostname was not localhost, there were problems. Haven’t tried godaddy yet, the thought of a different hostname otherthan localhost scares me.
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March 25, 2009 at 6:45 am #297827imsleepy;120062You are correct, I have not read the threads from “way back”, do they still matter today? But I also did not post this tutorial as another chance at bashing GoDaddy hosting, only as a way to try and help those having problems with QuickStart install who have chosen to host with GoDaddy. I have been using GoDaddy hosting for over 5 years now and quite happy with them. Sure they aren’t the best, but the price is right and there are worse hosts out there… I know, I have hosted with the worse ones as well.
I had a Mambo site on GoDaddy in 2004 and 2005. Had no problems with the hosting, only the security issues that Mambo had at the time and constant hacking, gave up the idea of CMS. Joomla seems to also be working fine with the GoDaddy hosting, though I am only a couple of months into trying it. So far, no problems that are hosting related.
I guess we can all agree to disagree about hosting companies and then get on with life.
whatever, they are not actually that far back and just because you value cheap hosts with non std stuff doesn’t mean we all do either.
Understand for some new to hosting , cpanels, ftp et al GoDaddy and the non standard, we do it our way and poor support could totally put a budding web designer off for good and ruin an experience. Get on with life? I do that daily, at Siteground, Lunarpages and other known good hosts with standard cpanels, ppl who know and use Joomla etc
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March 25, 2009 at 6:47 am #297828<em>@drarvindc 120063 wrote:</em><blockquote>The hosting panel of godaddy reminds me somewhat of servage.net. In Servage.net also the database is not localhost, it is generated everytime one creates the database. Had lots of problem there, the sites used to be down many times “unable to connect with database”, within 1 month it was unbearable. Shifted to lunarpages, its 2 years now on lunarpages and i dont remeber putting any support ticket for any server related issues at all.
Not sure but may be since the database hostname was not localhost, there were problems. Haven’t tried godaddy yet, the thought of a different hostname otherthan localhost scares me.</blockquote>
Yup… scared me too when I did the first QuickStart install awhile back. I spent over an hour trying to figure out what I did wrong. Searched the help files on GoDaddy and in some little obscure corner of the help files I finally found out about the different host names. I don’t know if it’s a security thing or what, but once I found out what the problem was, I had no problem.
So far, I have not had any problems connecting to the database…. knocking on wood here. At a previous host… several years back, the localhost thing was giving me problems connecting to the database. I guess it’s just the luck of the draw.
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March 25, 2009 at 6:53 am #297829<em>@ShannonN 120064 wrote:</em><blockquote>whatever, they are not actually that far back and just because you value cheap hosts with non std stuff doesn’t mean we all do either.
Understand for some new to hosting , cpanels, ftp et al GoDaddy and the non standard, we do it our way and poor support could totally put a budding web designer off for good and ruin an experience. Get on with life? I do that daily, at Siteground, Lunarpages and other known good hosts with standard cpanels, ppl who know and use Joomla etc
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Whether or not I value GoDaddy as a host was not the reason for posting this tutorial… it was to help those who were having problems with the installation. Maybe it would be better to let people with inferior hosts go without help until they find the proper host? If that is the case, I should by all means delete this tutorial as it is totally inappropriate.
It is a shame that a tutorial post has to become another bashing ground rather than a place for discussion of the topic that was posted.
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March 25, 2009 at 7:07 am #297830<em>@drarvindc 120058 wrote:</em><blockquote>Its interesting to observe that godaddy offers google webmaster tools access also. How do they do that? as it needs a google account. Do godaddy creates a google account for users too? or it just redirects to google account asking the user to create one himself?</blockquote>
I missed your question here… as far as I understand, they are included in the hosting account. I have not enabled them. I just went and looked at my hosting and I don’t see anything about needing a Google account. Here is a link to an article about GoDaddy and Google Webmaster Tools http://help.godaddy.com/article/3635
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March 25, 2009 at 8:05 am #297840<em>@imsleepy 120067 wrote:</em><blockquote>I missed your question here… as far as I understand, they are included in the hosting account. I have not enabled them. I just went and looked at my hosting and I don’t see anything about needing a Google account. Here is a link to an article about GoDaddy and Google Webmaster Tools http://help.godaddy.com/article/3635</blockquote>
Thanks for the link, went through it, they say they have partnered with google for special webmaster tool account, connected with the domains registered on go daddy. Does this imply that if one stops hosting with godaddy, he will no longer be able to access the google webmaster tools account?
Its better to associate the google webmaster tools with one’s google account, then it stays forever.
ShannoN correct me if i am wrong >> host database if different from localhost means the hosting company is running the mysql server on different machine. If host database is localhost that means the mysql is integrated on the same server.
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March 25, 2009 at 8:16 am #297841<em>@imsleepy 120066 wrote:</em><blockquote>Whether or not I value GoDaddy as a host was not the reason for posting this tutorial… it was to help those who were having problems with the installation. Maybe it would be better to let people with inferior hosts go without help until they find the proper host? If that is the case, I should by all means delete this tutorial as it is totally inappropriate.
It is a shame that a tutorial post has to become another bashing ground rather than a place for discussion of the topic that was posted.</blockquote>
Making this tutorial is certainly be helpful to those already on godaddy or people planning to go for godaddy. At the same time this discussion will help them to know the pros and cons of being on godaddy.
If someone would have posted a similar one about servage hosting, i would have been saved of my hard earned $$, i paid for the full year and used it for only 1 month.
Thanks for the tutorial. don’t delete it, your installation guide along with this discussion will be useful to many.
Regards 🙂
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March 25, 2009 at 8:21 am #297842<em>@drarvindc 120079 wrote:</em><blockquote>Thanks for the link, went through it, they say they have partnered with google for special webmaster tool account, connected with the domains registered on go daddy. Does this imply that if one stops hosting with godaddy, he will no longer be able to access the google webmaster tools account?
Its better to associate the google webmaster tools with one’s google account, then it stays forever.
ShannoN correct me if i am wrong >> host database if different from localhost means the hosting company is running the mysql server on different machine. If host database is localhost that means the mysql is integrated on the same server.</blockquote>
I believe that is exactly what it implies, though I would not swear to it, but it seems that it would be a good way to keep customers if they supply you with something that is not portable. I have a Google account that is separate from my GoDaddy account and I agree with you that some things are better left separate from the hosting account.
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March 25, 2009 at 8:29 am #297843<em>@imsleepy 120081 wrote:</em><blockquote>I believe that is exactly what it implies, though I would not swear to it, but it seems that it would be a good way to keep customers if they supply you with something that is not portable. I have a Google account that is separate from my GoDaddy account and I agree with you that some things are better left separate from the hosting account.</blockquote>
In agreement with you, its always safe to avoid addon’s which aren’t portable. Using such free addon’s forces one to continue with the same hosting co. So is the reason i never use the free lifetime domain offered by hosting companies, coz that is non transferable and you dont have access to the domain cpanel, so can’t change the nameservers. The fun starts when one has done SEO for such domains, which remain in the custody of the hosting co.
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March 25, 2009 at 8:30 am #297844<em>@drarvindc 120079 wrote:</em><blockquote>
ShannoN correct me if i am wrong >> host database if different from localhost means the hosting company is running the mysql server on different machine. If host database is localhost that means the mysql is integrated on the same server.</blockquote>Most hosts run separate sql servers and if configured correctly can appear as localhost, it is just that godaddy configure things differently.
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March 25, 2009 at 8:33 am #297845drarvindc;120079ShannoN correct me if i am wrong >> host database if different from localhost means the hosting company is running the mysql server on different machine. If host database is localhost that means the mysql is integrated on the same server.
Could be many things, If you are on a shared server, it may be on a different shared cluster in the same data centre or indeed a dedicated sql server anywhere in the server node.
They may not be running linux, could be running windows? I guess with prior internal co operation with GD, on server and SQL issues, MJ could give you far more concise answers than I could on how they actually operate from a technology viewpoint, but I’d agree with your first assumption till told different
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