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#297847

phill luckhurst;120083Most hosts run separate sql servers and if configured correctly can appear as localhost, it is just that godaddy configure things differently.

HI Phil
Get back to me re: those typography ideas I sent
Cheers Shannon

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#297848

<em>@drarvindc 120080 wrote:</em><blockquote>Making this tutorial is certainly be helpful to those already on godaddy or people planning to go for godaddy. At the same time this discussion will help them to know the pros and cons of being on godaddy.

If someone would have posted a similar one about servage hosting, i would have been saved of my hard earned $$, i paid for the full year and used it for only 1 month.

Thanks for the tutorial. don’t delete it, your installation guide along with this discussion will be useful to many.

Regards :)</blockquote>

I agree with you that people will be able to make an informed decision about who to choose for hosting. Years ago I used to host with OLM. I never had an issue with them. The only reason I left them was because their prices were not staying competitive and they didn’t seem to stay up to date with PHP, MySQL etc. Went through several hosting companies after that.

I always had my domains with GoDaddy and one day noticed they were offering hosting. Tried it out… it was really BAD!!! Dumped the GoDaddy hosting and went off to find another even worse host who all these years later still spams my email like I am still a customer of theirs.

After a couple of years saw that GoDaddy had really upgraded what they were calling hosting and at the time, 5 years ago now, it suited my needs and the price was right, though it still wasn’t perfect, nor is it perfect today. The main reason I stay with them is because I really don’t want to get back on the “hosting merry-go-round” and I have to say their up-time is spectacular! I have had hosts that advertise 99.9% uptime, but my server was always down.

Telephone support has always been great too, but have only had to use it twice in 5 years and never for hosting, always something to do with domain registration. Hosting has never given me problems. But yes, there are probably better hosts out there… just depends on what your needs are. My needs are simple, the price is right, and no problems with servers down etc.

I don’t host any of the sites I build. I used to, but it became too much of a hassle because I used one of those “webmaster” accounts to do the hosting, but in reality, I had no control over the server so when things weren’t working, there was nothing I could do and my clients would be mad at me of course since I was hosting them on my account. Nowdays I just recommend GoDaddy or tell my clients to choose a host they like. About half use GoDaddy.

Anyway, to get back on topic, I hope that some people find the tutorial useful.

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#297852

<em>@phill luckhurst 120083 wrote:</em><blockquote>Most hosts run separate sql servers and if configured correctly can appear as localhost, it is just that godaddy configure things differently.</blockquote>

<em>@ShannonN 120084 wrote:</em><blockquote>Could be many things, If you are on a shared server, it may be on a different shared cluster in the same data centre or indeed a dedicated sql server anywhere in the server node.

They may not be running linux, could be running windows? I guess with prior internal co operation with GD, on server and SQL issues, MJ could give you far more concise answers than I could on how they actually operate from a technology viewpoint, but I’d agree with your first assumption till told different
ShannonN</blockquote>

Thanks Phill and ShannoN , that clears up my mind about this “localhost” issue. Certainly would be waiting for inputs from MJ about this.

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#297853

<em>@phill luckhurst 120083 wrote:</em><blockquote>Most hosts run separate sql servers and if configured correctly can appear as localhost, it is just that godaddy configure things differently.</blockquote>

Do they run them on separate servers for security or speed? Or both maybe?

I have been curious about getting a dedicated server for some time now, but don’t know enough about them to make an informed decision. I assume on a dedicated server your SQL is on the same server? I was thinking about a dedicated server for speed reasons. I assume if you are not on the same server as everyone else, things might speed up a bit? But if the SQL is still on a different server then might still be bogged down by others even if I had a dedicated server.

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#297865

There are many reasons to run SQL on a separate server including speed, security, easy backups…. The list goes on. But that is for a big host and not to relavent if you are setting up your own system.

Hera is an example of one such reason. Think of a big room full of servers, often none of the servers will have their own hard drives but will just communicate with a rack full of disks. Each server is allocated a task when it boots such as mail, sql, dhcp etc and in a secure environment each often has a backup server running in parallel. So if for instance one of those servers needs hardware attention or upgrade etc then the service is simply switched to another server and the user is not aware of the change. Any server in the system can take on any job. Now if all services were run from one server and it failed the likelyhood is there will be an interruption of service.

If you are happy having a UK based server I cannot highly recommend enough http://www.bytemark.co.uk . I have been using one of their £15 per month virtual servers for over a year and it is the best service I have ever come accross. For example, at 6:30pm on a Sunday one of my sites got hacked. They sent me a text and blocked that site at 6:37. I cleaned up the offending code (for which they told me all the details by email) and by 7:10pm they unblocked the site and checked all was done correctly. All this was done out of hours on a Sunday. My previous hosts would have just left it. And for that £15 I run 11 sites from that server and it easily copes with the load.

The initial learning curve might be steep for those who have never used linux before but it really is quite easy and the guys will help via email.

ShannonN,

Great ideas you sent me. I am just a bit snowed under with work at the moment (we have a new server room to set up) and will get onto them this weekend. Thanks for your help.

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1. imsleepy

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#297873

<em>@phill luckhurst 120104 wrote:</em><blockquote>

If you are happy having a UK based server I cannot highly recommend enough http://www.bytemark.co.uk . I have been using one of their £15 per month virtual servers for over a year and it is the best service I have ever come accross. For example, at 6:30pm on a Sunday one of my sites got hacked. They sent me a text and blocked that site at 6:37. I cleaned up the offending code (for which they told me all the details by email) and by 7:10pm they unblocked the site and checked all was done correctly. All this was done out of hours on a Sunday. My previous hosts would have just left it. And for that £15 I run 11 sites from that server and it easily copes with the load.

The initial learning curve might be steep for those who have never used linux before but it really is quite easy and the guys will help via email.</blockquote>

Appreciations for your hosting company. This kind of concern and monitoring is worth every penny. I had my site hacked on xmas, with a picture of drunk naked santa on my university site homepage. It stayed for over a day until my friend called me up and informed me of indecent xmas greetings (he thought i did that on purpose). Not all the hosting co provides monitoring services, lucky you. 🙂

(p.s. the reason of hacking was due to older joomla version, i had not heeded to the weekly vulnerable script warning provided by lunarpages.com, on which i host).

This is what lunarpages offer to shared hosting accounts, a weekly vulnerable script scan:
<blockquote>Our server scanner has detected a possible vulnerable script on your account which may require updating.

If you find your script has been incorrectly tagged as out of date, please accept our sincere apologies and feel free to report any false positives. Insecure scripts can lead to compromised accounts and defacing of files which can have a severe effect on your security. This automated script is searching for any installations which are not running the very latest release.

We understand that your version may be patched or not affected by any current security alerts, however we like to ensure these issues are well publicized and that all customers are aware.
We do urge you to update to the very latest if possible.
Please see http://www.lunarforums.com/lunarpages_web_hosting_announcements/latest_server_scans_for_outdated_scripts-t47478.0.html for further information, this notice is an advisory only.</blockquote>

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#297876

I just took a peek at your host. I have no problem with a UK based host, I have always wondered why it would matter where your host is other than possible laws that might be in effect in one country and not another.

Can you tell me what the difference is between a Virtual Machine and a Dedicated Server? One of the reasons I have been considering this is for the sole purpose of consolidating my many different hosting accounts I have with GoDaddy. Though the price is right, I am finding more and more that I need my many websites on one account without needing to create all of the subdomains I have to accomodate my different domain names. It gets a bit confusing after awhile. For the ones that do have their own hosting accounts, even though the price is right, when you begin adding them all up, it gets a little spendy. I have no desire to get back in the business of hosting client sites, but for my many domains, what would you recommend the Virtual Machine or the Dedicated Server.

My needs are simple, I don’t need a bunch of bells and whistles, just a dependable affordable host, which I have now, but may be outgrowing.

When you say the initial learning curve may be steep, what are we talking about? I know absolutely nothing about server maintenance and I am not sure at this point in my career I want to learn it.

Boy did this go off topic… sorry about that.

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#297900

A dedicated server is just that, you get a whole server to yourself. A virtual server is a single server split between multiple users but each sees it as their own.

On my virtual server I have 12 joomla installs, 1 e-commerce site and 4 hand written sites all running at the same time with no problems and a couple of them are very busy. You also get to use the bytemark dns and if you go for the debian install the script automatically sets up the correct settings each time you create a new site so all you have to do is point your domain at it and you are set to go.

As for learning curve, it is notthat bad. Full instructions are provided and once you get the knack it is really quite easy setting up sites etc. When it does get difficult an email to the team usually gets a response within an hour or two. The other bonus is that you can just try it out for a month, if you struggle then you have lost nothing but one months fee and at £15 that is not a lot.

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#297956

<em>@imsleepy 120039 wrote:</em><blockquote>I
Extract the zip file for your template to your local machine, open the file named QuickStart and upload all files to your host using FTP client program. DO NOT try to use the GoDaddy FTP Client. There are too many files and they are too large. You must use a stand alone FTP client. I use WS-FTP but there are many out there to choose from.
</blockquote>

Filezilla FTP Client is very good and of course totally free and open source. I tried WS-FTP and some others too, those are often recommended by the hosting companies, but none of those can compete with Filezilla, not only due it is free and open source.;)

http://filezilla-project.org/

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#305032

Hi imsleepy,
This did not work. Followed all the steps as mentioned here. What I am getting is just the page title.

Raj

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#305034

looks like a bad install or there may be some unsupported modules/plugins there. try disabling all modules and see if your page loads

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#305165

Don’t worry. Solved the issue. It was a PHP version mismatch. I had v5.0 on my JSAS and v4.0 on godaddy. Upgraded godaddy and dropped all tables and imported a fresh copy of the database and it came up fine.

Error for your ref: blank page

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