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April 17, 2012 at 5:28 pm #176217Hello
my website address is http://mardik.am, this is a newspaper website
Thanks for the great template JA TELINE IV, the great framework JA T3..
I am using JA TELINE IV + K2 ( 27.000 items in DB , and up to 100 items are published daily)The database was migrated from non-Joomla website, and now everything is OK.
THE ONLY PROBLEM on the website is the SITE SPEED.
The website was on shared hosting, then i moved to VPS, Then to CLOUD SERVER by Rackspace.com, to make the website faster
I uploaded all the CSS, JS, IMAGES to rackspace cloud Files CDN, and when i right click on the website, and view an image URL it shows http://c17.r54.cloud34.rackspace.com/mod_janewspro/folder/image1.jpg that means that the images are loaded simultaniously from Cloud server… but the website speed is slow yet. Then i reduced the image size on the frontpage, on K@ category pages, etc, but nothing is changed, the website speed is not high, and for a newspaper website it is slow, thus we can loose our readers.
…I tried EVERYTHING
Plugins for compressions, JA T3 function to JOIN, MINIMIZE, CSS and JS, still slow…
The website starts loading faster if i enable cache, but its not comfortable for us to have website cache, because this is a LIVE website, and the new items that are being published are not visible on the website, until we clear the cache…
——————–Please give some solution what can I do to improve site speed?
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April 17, 2012 at 10:48 pm #448798<em>@balgev 314319 wrote:</em><blockquote>Hello my website address is http://mardik.am, this is a newspaper website Thanks for the great template JA TELINE IV, the great framework JA T3.. I am using JA TELINE IV + K2 ( 27.000 items in DB , and up to 100 items are published daily) The database was migrated from non-Joomla website, and now everything is OK. THE ONLY PROBLEM on the website is the SITE SPEED. The website was on shared hosting, then i moved to VPS, Then to CLOUD SERVER by Rackspace.com, to make the website faster I uploaded all the CSS, JS, IMAGES to rackspace cloud Files CDN, and when i right click on the website, and view an image URL it shows http://c17.r54.cloud34.rackspace.com/mod_janewspro/folder/image1.jpg that means that the images are loaded simultaniously from Cloud server… but the website speed is slow yet. Then i reduced the image size on the frontpage, on K@ category pages, etc, but nothing is changed, the website speed is not high, and for a newspaper website it is slow, thus we can loose our readers. … I tried EVERYTHING Plugins for compressions, JA T3 function to JOIN, MINIMIZE, CSS and JS, still slow… The website starts loading faster if i enable cache, but its not comfortable for us to have website cache, because this is a LIVE website, and the new items that are being published are not visible on the website, until we clear the cache… ——————– Please give some solution what can I do to improve site speed?</blockquote> Site loaded as fast as most big sites do mhere in Australia on my low speed wireless broadband connection ran your site frontpage through a speed anaylyser . Looks like you really don’t have a problem with initial frontpage maybe other pages need trimming? are rss feeds causing delays? go here please and use this web site analyser http://www.webpagetest.org/ it shows graph view and detailed results Hope this helps Shane
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April 19, 2012 at 8:07 am #449073in fact website is slow, and a lot of people are anxious about this while using ja teline iv and k2.
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April 23, 2012 at 6:56 pm #449830<em>@balgev 314700 wrote:</em><blockquote>in fact website is slow, and a lot of people are anxious about this while using ja teline iv and k2.</blockquote>
I have the same problem but I am not sure if it has something to do with K2. I installed the Joomla 2.5 quickstart file, changed categories and menu items, imported content with FeedGator and found the new site much slower than the old one based on Joomla 1.7 – still without K2, which was installed only today (with two test items).
the original site:
http://www.europanabahia.com.br
the “future” site with less content than the original site
http://www.europanabahia.com.br/~joomla25The speed is so slow that it turns the site UNUSABLE!
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April 23, 2012 at 7:09 pm #449831<em>@teutobahiano 315615 wrote:</em><blockquote>I have the same problem but I am not sure if it has something to do with K2. I installed the Joomla 2.5 quickstart file, changed categories and menu items, imported content with FeedGator and found the new site much slower than the old one based on Joomla 1.7 – still without K2, which was installed only today (with two test items).
the original site:
http://www.europanabahia.com.br
the “future” site with less content than the original site
http://www.europanabahia.com.br/~joomla25The speed is so slow that it turns the site UNUSABLE!</blockquote>
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/514/5064389463.png
your new site imports huge image files and resize them. half of your new site size is coz of these images. Check screenshot for details.
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April 23, 2012 at 7:18 pm #449834<em>@drarvindc 315616 wrote:</em><blockquote>http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/514/5064389463.png
your new site imports huge image files and resize them. half of your new site size is coz of these images. Check screenshot for details.</blockquote>
Please tell me what to do. The new site is displaying the same content found in the old site. Some code to be changed? Configuration?
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April 23, 2012 at 7:28 pm #449835i checked your site too. http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/514/8451871640.jpg
You should enable the css / js optimization feature of T3. That will reduce the number of css / js files, Now you have 31+15=46 css /js files… these http requests will come down to 2-3 only.
Amazon S3 component of ours allows using CDN (cloudfront) and also has option to update cache folder with cron job.. which can be set to lower limit to have regular update of cache on cloud. Running without cache on is bound to make the site slower. However, the main reason for slow site would still be the number of items it has to fetch (css , js, images, external scripts / social stuff).
If you are not using much of default typo of Teline IV, you can remove most of the items from the css file. That would help you decrease the HTTP requests and will help you speed up your site.
Arvind
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April 23, 2012 at 7:36 pm #449837<em>@teutobahiano 315620 wrote:</em><blockquote>Please tell me what to do. The new site is displaying the same content found in the old site. Some code to be changed? Configuration?</blockquote>
It would be difficult to pin point the issue. As nothing has changed in teline IV between 1.7 and 2.5 version. External images are resized by browser on user side but only after fetching the full version.
Your older site loads only 3 images from the said external site but your new site is loading 8 files which are huge in size.
Install this extension in your firefox and make the comparison yourself. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/view-dependencies/
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/514/9981921610.png
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/514/4406199911.png
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May 3, 2012 at 9:17 pm #451311I am also experiencing the same problem. It seems like there is no solution yet. This template, nice as it is, is very very slow. I get “problems loading page” outages every time I try to save articles, upload modules etc. I have turned all the cache that I can find on but to no avail. I really don’t know what is the issue here!
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May 3, 2012 at 10:22 pm #451318Hello
Beleive i have tried everything., i turned jat3 css and js compression, use jturbo for uploading css js to cloud network, i tried 3rd party plugins that reduce pageload time, like jch_optimized, or JFinilized, etc… in any case 4sec is minimum page load time, the only thing is to manually combine all css and js into 1, but i am having troubles with this, come js and css having conflicts….
May 4, 2012 at 8:35 am #451388Yes balgev, there is a problem but it seems no one wants to admit it. I find most of these quickstart packages buggy. It is like a malignant disease. It is so frustrating!
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May 7, 2012 at 10:19 am #451827Hi kongoi,
Have you checked the same like in above post of Arvind. Please post the URL of site you’re working on, it will be clearer. Or maybe the problem also comes from your server, you should choose best package hosting for your site.
May 7, 2012 at 11:17 am #451843<em>@Saguaros 318155 wrote:</em><blockquote>Hi kongoi,
Have you checked the same like in above post of Arvind. Please post the URL of site you’re working on, it will be clearer. Or maybe the problem also comes from your server, you should choose best package hosting for your site.</blockquote>Hi Saguaros, here is the site I am working on:- http://www.samora.no. I have a feeling that it is slower than the other Joomla sites that I am working on. I have to clear the cache every time I save an article for it to appear!
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May 10, 2012 at 3:03 am #452311Hi kongoi,
The load speed comes from so many reasons:
– You could check your bandwidth again, in my end the load speed is not bad, I feel that I can access your site like others.
– Is your host good enough? do you have any other site using this host so that it’s easier with a comparison.
– And make sure that you turn on the cache so that your site will run faster.Arvind Chauhan ModeratorArvind Chauhan
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May 10, 2012 at 4:35 am #452328You can also try this site to see more details about your site loading time and elements : http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/
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