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[pizzahub Friend pizzahubJoin date: April 2014Posts: 27Downloads:1Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 2 times in 1 posts]

#197272

Hello,

Any one got recommendations for speeding up page loading (have JA Bookshop with mijoshop) on mobile devices , desktop etc?

I have tried 1 or 2 plugins but they only improved performance a little ie
when i tested on http://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/

Anyone used the http://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/ before?

Thanks

[Manos Moderator ManosJoin date: February 2014Posts: 2806Downloads:46Uploads:56 Thanks: 200 Thanked: 633 times in 576 posts]

#533111

Hi,
What are the results you are getting from pagespeed ?

There’s also some good info here -> http://www.joomlart.com/blog/news-updates/tools-and-tips-to-check-joomla-site-speed-and-improve-performance

Regards

Manos

[pizzahub Friend pizzahubJoin date: April 2014Posts: 27Downloads:1Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 2 times in 1 posts]

#533275

For Mobile

50 / 100Speed
Should Fix:

Eliminate render-blocking JavaScript and CSS in above-the-fold content
Show how to fix

Reduce server response time
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Leverage browser caching
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Enable compression
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Consider Fixing:
Prioritize visible content
Show how to fix

Optimize images
Show how to fix
Minify JavaScript
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Minify HTML
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Minify CSS
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1 Passed Rule
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95 / 100User Experience
Consider Fixing:

Size tap targets appropriately
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4 Passed Rules
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For Desktop

68 / 100Suggestions Summary
Should Fix:

Reduce server response time
Show how to fix

Eliminate render-blocking JavaScript and CSS in above-the-fold content
Show how to fix

Enable compression
Show how to fix

Consider Fixing:

Leverage browser caching
Show how to fix

Prioritize visible content
Show how to fix

Optimize images
Show how to fix

Minify JavaScript
Show how to fix

Minify HTML
Show how to fix

Minify CSS
Show how to fix

1 Passed Rule
Show details

These results are for from Chrome browser. The site is running on Apache/Linux on a shared hosting.
My website is not image heavy. I have tried to optimize images used eg on the home page. Not used any embedded
videos or have huge heavy pages – still configuring it and adding content…..

I have joomla cache turned off at moment while setting up, so perfromance likely improve a bit after finished setting it up.

I know that i can increase performance a bit further using a dedicated server but don’t need that moment.

I have some plugins installed jbetolo and ScriptMerge and have set the options to merge css, js and using gzip compression etc.
However, the google tool http://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed doesn’t seem to detect that gzip is already supposed to be used etc…..

Just wondering how useful this tool is and do many people actually use for helping with improving site performance.

Thanks

[Manos Moderator ManosJoin date: February 2014Posts: 2806Downloads:46Uploads:56 Thanks: 200 Thanked: 633 times in 576 posts]

#533277

Hi,
Optimization can happen up to a point i will borrow this from @arvind‘s blog post
<blockquote>Remember, if it’s heavy… it’s going to load slower.</blockquote>

As for that tool from google it can be quite helpful in terms of getting what can be done according to how much you want to spent and how far you wanna dig into this.

Your page already has a load of -> The page has a total of 56 components and a total weight of 1751.3K byte which is not a small page.

Gzip ? You need to contact your host and make sure that Gzip is server enabled.
Also do you have developer mode on ?

One more thing i would like to note here, is this, using more than one compression plugins is not going to help in fact it might get things worse than not using any. You need to spent some time configuring one of those and make sure you keep the one that gives you a better result. It’s hard to say which one is best, you need to test this yourself.

Regards

Manos

[pizzahub Friend pizzahubJoin date: April 2014Posts: 27Downloads:1Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 2 times in 1 posts]

#533279

Hello,

Thanks for your suggestions !

You are right, having multiple compression could make things worse. I should really use a single one. I’ll disable and just experiment a bit . Then try another plugin.

Ideally would like to get a faster loading on mobile side, in the 60+ range or better if I can …..

I’m going to chase up with hosting regarding speeding up web-hosting side. I have already disabled some default
modules that came with joomla. Will look at disabling some more so I don’t have any unnecessary plugins/modules etc running.

At the moment, Debug System is off – so that should help with speed.

I ran the demo site and got these figures. Will try some other ecommerce sites like amazon,

http://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fja-bookshop.demo.joomlart.com%2Findex.php%2Fen%2F&tab=mobile

Mobile
62 / 100Speed
Should Fix:
Eliminate render-blocking JavaScript and CSS in above-the-fold content
Show how to fix

Reduce server response time
Show how to fix

Optimize images
Show how to fix

Consider Fixing:
Minify JavaScript
Show how to fix

Leverage browser caching
Show how to fix

Minify HTML
Show how to fix

4 Passed Rules
Show details

95 / 100User Experience
Consider Fixing:

Size tap targets appropriately
Show how to fix

4 Passed Rules
Show details

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Desktop
74 / 100Suggestions Summary
Should Fix:

Reduce server response time
Show how to fix

Optimize images
Show how to fix

Consider Fixing:
Eliminate render-blocking JavaScript and CSS in above-the-fold content
Show how to fix

Minify JavaScript
Show how to fix

Leverage browser caching
Show how to fix

Minify HTML
Show how to fix

4 Passed Rules
Show details

Thanks

[fmfame Friend fmfameJoin date: October 2013Posts: 228Downloads:4Uploads:39 Thanks: 8 Thanked: 25 times in 1 posts]

#533328

Hey pizzahub

try to follow my instructions on my post in biz forum

So you speed up your site

http://www.joomlart.com/forums/topic/ja-biz-painfully-slow/#post-530143

Here a copied listing:

Important!
1. you are in “developement mode”, so the optimized css and js is not activated
2. activated system cache in –>plugings
3. activated cache (conservatice caching) in global configuration –> system

Its important to use cache if you want to speed up your site. So you have to know that if you make any changes on template now, You have to clean your browser cache to see the changes. Or you can disable system cache in plugins, then reload the frontend and you see new changes immediately.
After expiration of cache session time, its loading new styles for all visitors. –> global configuration –> system –>cache time and session lifetime..

Now open all pages with your browser or mobile phone, then close browser and try that again, you will see its much faster now….

[pizzahub Friend pizzahubJoin date: April 2014Posts: 27Downloads:1Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 2 times in 1 posts]

#533383

Hello

Thanks for the suggestions.

I am using http://ja-bookshop.demo.joomlart.com/index.php/en/ as a comparision to my joomla site.

I got interesting results.

1 I disabled jbetolo plugin.

2 I am using latest version of Joomla – just updated.
– I don’t see developement mode in Global Configuration. However in
Global Configuration > System tab there is Debug settings ie
Debug System – disabled
Debug Language – disabled and

Cache is set to ON Conservation caching.
Cache Handler – File
Cache Time is 15

3 In Global Configuration > Server Tab
Gzip page compression is disabled.

4
when i try entering my site URl in http://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/
The tab for the mobile results is he URL was fetched, but nothing was rendered. Ensure that the URL points to an HTML page that loads successfully in a web browser.Dismiss

When i try and open up Opera browser and browser my site nothing is rendered ie blank site. Same

This was after i cleared cache in Joomla > clear cache.

There is supposed to be joomla cache plugin – turned off by default.System – Cache.
Will experiment with that later.

5 I looked in Plugin Manager > Plugins but didn’t see plugin cache anywhere there.

Thanks

Update:

I tried the site after a few mins… now showing.
http://developers.google.com/speed/

is showing from 42-61 mobile and

45 – 71 for desktop. …. ie when i open up new private browser window in Firefox.

[fmfame Friend fmfameJoin date: October 2013Posts: 228Downloads:4Uploads:39 Thanks: 8 Thanked: 25 times in 1 posts]

#533407

Hi

to point 5

in joomla –> backend –> extensions –> there must be a “cache” plugin. If not, maybe your joomla installation is not correctly installed during your joomla installation..

[pizzahub Friend pizzahubJoin date: April 2014Posts: 27Downloads:1Uploads:1 Thanks: 4 Thanked: 2 times in 1 posts]

#533413

hI,

Yes there is a System – Cache plugin have enabled it,

Just experimenting with jbetolo plugin settings….

thanks

[gringo211985 Friend gringo211985Join date: May 2012Posts: 678Downloads:197Uploads:121 Thanks: 77 Thanked: 123 times in 27 posts]

#533417

Hi,

I’ve had problems with slow loading sites before and I can say that the best improvement I had was by enabling “mod_pagespeed” in my hosting account. It’s a Google plugin for apache and works pretty well. If you don’t have that try “mod_supercacher” in your hosting account as that’s pretty good too.

There are some tweaks the JA devs could do when creating templates to improve the pagespeed, which I think would be awesome if they implemented. According to Google and my own research it seems that it’s the ordering of the components/elements/css/java loading that is the problem. See pic below,

The results above are almost exactly identical for every JA template and would be great if the JA devs could sort this out. Also if JA had fastest loading templates then I’m 100% sure even more people would start to use them.

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#533719

Hello,

Yes fast loading tempates would be great as less likely to lose visitors/customers.

Thanks

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