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#130432

I have the template setup on J! 1.5 and it is working very well but for some reason it does not apply to all pages correctly. It seems that everything under the “news” section does not maintain the modules that are assigned to it. I have looked up and down but cannot find anywhere that would cause this problem. A link to the site is below, You will notice that any article that you click on in the news section has the problem but articles in other sections do not.

http://ijn.com/

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#258383

bump. Anyone?

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#258399

<em>@dechtman 64159 wrote:</em><blockquote>I have the template setup on J! 1.5 and it is working very well but for some reason it does not apply to all pages correctly. It seems that everything under the “news” section does not maintain the modules that are assigned to it. I have looked up and down but cannot find anywhere that would cause this problem. A link to the site is below, You will notice that any article that you click on in the news section has the problem but articles in other sections do not.

http://ijn.com/</blockquote>

Hi dechtman,

I am not exactly sure what you mean.

I notice the following:
You have the FrontPage module
You have no JA News module => Did you disable it?

In your Magazine menu, I do not see any Section with categories, I do not see the usual format for the Intro

What exactly do you call News section?

Unless you have changed the Section name of News in the Section manager,. I have not clicked on an article that is linked clearly with the News.

Can you make a grab image of a sample News article in the News section and another Section. and label exactly what the differences are.

I am not sure if I can help later, but that may help others understand what you mean, exactly.

It looks you have done quite a significant job in customizing your site. I would be interested for example to know how you created the left position.

Thanks.

Cornelio

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#258416

Thanks for your reply Cornelio. Maybe I didn’t explain clearly enough. The news section is the main section of the page, where the main stories appear with the three sub stories directly to its right in the center column on the home page. The problem is that modules are not being displayed on the template even though they are selected for that menu item. You can test this by using the menu on the left side of the page (custom module position). The problem seems to stem from an incorrect itemID being applied to the read more/article title buttons. I have noticed that when I look at the links created for each article item some of them are different even though they are in the same section/category. I believe they should be consistent so that modules can be consistently applied to all of them. I am attaching screen captures of what it looks like on a “good” page and on a “bad” page.

Good
http://ijn.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=208:rabbi-mitchell-delcau-named-assistant-rabbi-at-emanuel&catid=67:denver&Itemid=259

Bad
http://ijn.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=198:journalists-in-washington-dc&catid=58:view-from-denver&Itemid=131

As far as the column on the left it is a div floated left with a static width, what would you like to know?

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#258433

Hi dechtman,

Here are some of my observations, I am not sure if they help.

What you call News Section in the “HomePage” is actually known as the JA FrontPage module, in the modules window (back end). The articles presented in the JA Frontpage modules may come from any of the articles in the various categories and section — and you control this, by clicking the Front Page when you create an article.

Technically what is called “News” is the one defined in the Sections manager as News, in the demo, one of the categories would be Hot Topic.

You are missing (or not showing) the entire JA News module. Did you want this to happen intentionally, i.e, you unpublished the JA News module? I have this happen to me, not deliberate nor my preference to happen. When I tried to add modules near the JA News module. Twice already, the entire JA Module disappeared in the front end, but still in the Modules window (back end). To restore it, I have to uninstall the JA Teline II (?) and replace it with a new one; but the replacement has so many bugs (this w as observed by others too).

Only true Section:
In the Magazine links (front end), the Archives link is the only layout that has the intended Section layout (i.e., like the Section Demo layout) — main article for the Section, various article of the Section, with text and images. What bothers me though is that no Categories show (Did you remove them?), and in a full article page, the article is decoupled from its category and the category from its Section.

I have an idea what caused this. It is easier to reverse in the Joomla 1.0x-JA Teline II version — because the CID is prominently displayed in both the summary page of the Sections and Categories manager listing. and also in the Magazine menu (my page was done in Joomla 1.0x-JA Teline II)

In Joomla 1.5x, I was horrified to find out that there is an ID in the summary page of the Sections and Categories manager listing. Unfortunately, this unique ID tag, i snot displayed prominently in the Magazine menu listing. There is an ID there but it is not the ID that identifies or tags a Section or Category, permanently — the numeric ID tag that the computer understands to correlate the actual sections or categories whether they are located in the Sections and Categories manager, Magazine menu or in the JA News module layouting.

Based from clicking at the full articles, it seems they are not in the correct categories or Sections. The lead article in the Articles section for example does not highlight the Archives section in the Magazine menu and become what you call a Bad page (full article).

[More on this in another response.’.

So, now, the Good and the Bad.

Good page (article page):

Apart from the main article, it shows the left and right positions (mostly User 5, 6 or 7???), with the appropriate modules filling the aforementioned postions/

Bad page (article page)

In this bad page, the full article shows and it fills the whole page, because in contrast to the Good page (article page), the left and right positions do now appear. It this is what you call bad layout, then the solution is simple — if you did not mess up the renaming of your Sections and Categories.

If it was correctly done, all you have to do is this:

Administrator => => Modules => (individual modules)

Click for example the Main Menu module, and highlight the Sections, categories where you want it to appear, much like in the Good page. Repeat the same thing with the other modules that are found either on the left or right of the full article. (Note: It does not have to be just articles, it could be sections, like the Archives.

My suspicion though is that the articles were decoupled with their respective Sections because the Categories or even the Sections in the Magazine Menu (back end) do not correlate with the proper ID tag as set in the Sections and Categories managers. The ID tags in the Sections and Categories managers are the permanent values. In fact, if you delete a Section or a Category in the Sections and Categories managers, they are not reassigned.

If this is the case, do not do the previous step yet::
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Administrator => => Modules => (individual modules)

Click for example the Main Menu module, and highlight the Sections, categories where you want it to appear, much like in the Good page. Repeat the same thing with the other modules that are found either on the left or right of the full article. (Note: It does not have to be just articles, it could be sections, like the Archives.
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If my analysis above is correct, it might be possilble to reverse the process of decoupling, but it is a tedious one by one correlation process. Not sure if you have the patience to do that. At any rate, it is worht a try.

I will check at my Demo Joomla 1.5x-JA Teline II first because I am not very familiar with Joomla 1.5-JA Teline II. All my sites, still quite preliminary are done with Joomla 1.0x-JA Teline II. I think they are less prone to the same problems, encountered by others.

Cornelio

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#258438

Cornelio, thanks again for your extensive reply. I am pretty sure it is decoupling the CID. If I manually change it to a catagory that is “working” with modules it displays the article correctly (incorrect colors obviously but otherwise good). The problem I think is coming from the jazin plugin that makes the menu. I don’t think it looks for the CID but rather just adds x number on menu items and pounds out that many more ID’s. Very frustrating as after I re-applied the jazin plugin more sections become effected. I have checked

I’m confused as to what you mean by your second solution. I have made sure that the modules are applied to the correct menu items. I didn’t know it was possible to apply the modules to sections/catagories not relating to the menu. I think I may have to back-up all the data and recreate everything I hope to god not but that it what it is looking like as all the CIDs at the end of various urls are all different. I don’t know how this is possible. I feel like I’m pretty solid with Joomla but something wicked this way comes I guess hehe. Thanks for your help, I’ll let you know if I get it fixed.

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#258444

<em>@dechtman 64885 wrote:</em><blockquote>Cornelio, thanks again for your extensive reply. I am pretty sure it is decoupling the CID. If I manually change it to a catagory that is “working” with modules it displays the article correctly (incorrect colors obviously but otherwise good). The problem I think is coming from the jazin plugin that makes the menu. I don’t think it looks for the CID but rather just adds x number on menu items and pounds out that many more ID’s. Very frustrating as after I re-applied the jazin plugin more sections become effected. I have checked

I’m confused as to what you mean by your second solution. I have made sure that the modules are applied to the correct menu items. I didn’t know it was possible to apply the modules to sections/catagories not relating to the menu. I think I may have to back-up all the data and recreate everything I hope to god not but that it what it is looking like as all the CIDs at the end of various urls are all different. I don’t know how this is possible. I feel like I’m pretty solid with Joomla but something wicked this way comes I guess hehe. Thanks for your help, I’ll let you know if I get it fixed.</blockquote>

Hi dechtman

I encountered this in Joomla 1.0x-JA Teline II, and it is reversible, so I think it could be done also. in Joomla 1.5x. Let me just check my own Demo for Joomla 1.5x,

In the Joomla 1.0x, the CID is present in the summary page of the Magazine menu. I do not see the CID in the summary page of the Magazine menu of the Joomla 1.5x.

Can you please confirm this?

The ID I see in the the summary page of the Magazine menu of the Joomla 1.5x. is not correlated at all with the permanent ID of the Sections or the Categories as contained in the Sections and Categories manager. I think this is the problem where the mixed up could have occured.

However, here is one place though where you can check the correct CID is the URL found in the Edit page in the Magazine menu when you change a Section or Category name.

Please check this

with One Section
=> all categories in the Section

Example: Section 1 => CID = 12 (from Section Manager)
Category 1 => CID = 25 (from Category Manager)
Category 2 => CID = 24 (from Category Manager)

in the Magazine Menu Edit window
Example: Section 1 => CID = 12 (from Section Manager) <= make sure same CID in the URL
Category 1 => CID = 25 (from Category Manager)<= make sure same same CID in the URL
Category 2 => CID = 24 (from Category Manager)<= make sure same same CID in the URL

I think on the right side of the Edit window would show the section

Do not change the CID in the URL change the name of the Category depending on the CID in the URL

then please publish that section and the categories in the Magazine menu (right now, none of the Sections, e.g., Archive in the Magazine Menu show any categories

In the articles window
=>make sure that the articles are in the proper category

If all done correctly, by clicking the article tile, the full article page should first correlate with the Section, and also the Category. Do not worry about the layout for now. That can be remedied, if the articles now show the correct Category and Section.

I hope I am explaining myself to make sense.:)

Let me check my Demo though while you are trying the above or what you think is a solution.

Cornelio

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#258446

You are correct there is not catagory ID on the landing page for the magazine menu. For the business section the ID is 219 in the backend (menu manager). When I access it from the front end the URL says that the ItemID is 219 so that is working well. When I click on a article title it says the itemID is 318 and the modules disappear. The section manager says that the business section has a ID of 14. I think this is the info you needed? :-[

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#258454

<em>@dechtman 64895 wrote:</em><blockquote>You are correct there is not catagory ID on the landing page for the magazine menu. For the business section the ID is 219 in the backend (menu manager). When I access it from the front end the URL says that the ItemID is 219 so that is working well. When I click on a article title it says the itemID is 318 and the modules disappear. The section manager says that the business section has a ID of 14. I think this is the info you needed? :-[</blockquote>

Hi dechtman;

[I just thought of a faster approach to do this (see next post#10). Just create new sections and categories. then transfer the articles from the old site to the proper category. This works, and it is a lot faster. I just tried one trial section.

The absence of categories linked with a Section indicates that you decoupled the Categories from the proper section.The Section you see which is decoupled will not have the correct layout of the Section Intro Page.

If there are categories linked with a Section, then their CIDs may just be interchanged, but the Section layout wil be correct.

First thing to do is copy all the CID for the sections in the Section manager. Use the CID from the Manager

Forget the ID that you see in the Magazine menu. I just want to kinow if it looks like my own. You just confirmed this

(I am speculating here but.) The numbers in the Magazine menua may be the decoupled number, or more likely it is just a number to identify that “this file” is in the Magazine menu. I am on shaky ground here

If you renamed or created new Sections, use the actual Section ID numbers copied from the Section manager, the first one made are very low numbers, like

Section => CID

News => 1

Yes, the low number of the CID for business may be correct. So, let us start with that. Does it have some categories associated with it in the Magazine menu? If it does, then find the CID in the Categories manager.

newly created sections will have higher numbers.

Please follow the suggestion in my previous post, but just do one section right now. Then the categories in this section.

Cornelio

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#258461

Hi dechtman,

I was about to prepare my dinner when I thought a different approach. I already tried it, and it works.

Please check the Ecosystems in the Magazine menu (front End) for

http://world-odyssey.org/jte15x10/index.php

1) create new sections in the Section manager.
Example: Ecosystems =>Save
=>Copy the CID

2) Go to Magazine Menu
Administrator => Menus => magazine
=> Select New => Articles => Section => Section blog layout => (new window)
=>(let me know if you have done these steps before already, very detaile)

3) Go to Category Manager
Administrator => Content => Categories Manager
New Window =>(right side) select Section Ecosystems
Click New
=>Fill up form
=>Save
=> Note: If Ecosystems is already in the Magazine menu (back end), the new category is automaticallly included in the Section => Ecosystems

[Note: The old ones must not be deleted, until you are sure that the Sections and Categories work as they should. All the files are transferred.]

Try it with one new section, and the categories.

Then transfer the files to each category.

Please refer to my trial page for creation of new site called Ecosystems

Focus on the new Section: Ecosystem:

Note how the articles are linked correctly, not only to the Ecosystem, but also the correct category.

Cornelio

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#258591

Wow, thank you so much, I’ll get to swapping them out immediately thanks so much you are awesome!!!!!!!

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#258661

<em>@dechtman 65064 wrote:</em><blockquote>Wow, thank you so much, I’ll get to swapping them out immediately thanks so much you are awesome!!!!!!!</blockquote>

Keep me updtated dechtman. Good luck.

Cornelio

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#258802

worked out great thanks for all your help you are a life saver

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#258807

<em>@dechtman 65329 wrote:</em><blockquote>worked out great thanks for all your help you are a life saver</blockquote>

That is good to know dechtman. They were lessons from lots of trial and errors, when there was no technical support provided. So, I cannot resist but share my experience when I see someone grappling with the same problems. It is very frustrating.

I am sure you will do the same when others encounter the same problems.

Can you please send me as attachment, as copy of your index.php or whatever scripts, CSS, etc. you had to change, and detailed procedure on how you changed them. Guideposts in the index.php or other scripts changed would help too.

You seem to know Joomla and scripting better than I do. I asked several times here, on how to add modules positions, but never got a response to my thread on this issue. I even responded to a supposed tutorial on this, but got no response. I use Joomla 1.0.xx mainly.

Or, better still, instead of sending it to me privately. please consider starting a tutorial on a detailed procedure on how to add a user position modules (in your case to the left or at the bottom), intended for new users with minimal or no scripting background. I read a few customers asking the same.

Thanks.

Cornelio

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#258810

Hi dechtman,

I was looking at your site, and you did a good job of customizing it.

I visited the subscription feature:

http://ijn.com/index.php?option=com_chronocontact&Itemid=59

What is your experience with the third party extension that you use? It is very clean not techy, I like simple stuff like this. By the way, did you consider a more secure https://ijn.com/ for these transactions. I understand, it involves buying a SSL, the cost depends upon your hosting service, but it is a one-time fee.

I assume this is a registration also; but I do not see a login.

What bank company do you use for the credit card administration and how much do they charge you. There is a project that we want to start and we need something like this too. I have no experience with charging anyone though, so I do not know how much the administrations fees are. I heard some credit card companies charge too much, like American Express. I have paypal account as individual but has not tried it yet for the purpose that you do in the subscription.

Cornelio

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