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#263044

I didn’t edit any of the menu items or category names just the category aliases: – admin / category manager and then I just cut and pasted the category id’s into the ‘alias’ box.

Not sure why it worked but I think it’s something to do with the sef problem that was fixed in 1.5.5.
Before the update all links would show both the category alias and the menu alias so it kind of doubled up:-

1.5.4 links= /section/category/category/category alias(from category manager) /article alias
1.5.5 links= /section/category/article alias/

I’ve pm’d you the server config.

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#263049

<em>@perdu 70519 wrote:</em><blockquote>I didn’t edit any of the menu items or category names just the category aliases: – admin / category manager and then I just cut and pasted the category id’s into the ‘alias’ box.

Not sure why it worked but I think it’s something to do with the sef problem that was fixed in 1.5.5.
Before the update all links would show both the category alias and the menu alias so it kind of doubled up:-

1.5.4 links= /section/category/category/category alias(from category manager) /article alias
1.5.5 links= /section/category/article alias/

I’ve pm’d you the server config.</blockquote>

Hi perdu,

You mean like this:

administrator => Content => Category Manager => Click to get this:

Category Manager: [ Content ] => Select Section => (list of Categories in Section). => Click a Category to get this for World => Europe:

Category: [ Edit ]
Details
Title: Europe
Alias: europe


and change the

Alias: europe => Alias: 81

as follows:

Category: [ Edit ]
Details
Title: Europe
Alias: 81


and it does work! I wonder if that is indeed the intention. And, I wonder too if there is a tutorial already in the main Joomla site.:)

I did look at the server specifications you sent me, except fot he more advanced server software used, the specifications looked much like mine. Thanks.

Cornelio

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#263054

Yes that’s right but I don’t think it’s intentional – it will all probably change again when they roll out 1.5.6 😀

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#263077

<em>@perdu 70530 wrote:</em><blockquote>Yes that’s right but I don’t think it’s intentional – it will all probably change again when they roll out 1.5.6 :D</blockquote>

That is what I find puzzling about Joomla, there are features in the Joomla 1.0x that for some reason they abandoned. To name three very important ones:

1. The website name is shown at the top of the browser, in every page.

This is not the case with Joomla 1.5.0-1.5.3. With Joomla 1.5.4, only the Homepage shows the name of the website at the top of the browser.

2. There is a way so that the “Intro” text that shows in the Homepage can be different from the text intro in the full article.

I am not sure that it can be done now with the current Article edit format of Joomla 1.5.x

3. In the Joomla 1.0x Global Configuration, there is a one step way of making the title of all the articles linkable.

This should be the default, instead of “Read more” — what I consider a direction for stupid people. As it is now, the default seems to be non-clickable titles and “Read more” as default. You do not see “Read more” in professional online publications, like New York Times.

Cornelio

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#263350

I’ve read about your workaround, but it seems like that’s what it is rather than a true fix for the SEF URL problem. I’d like to know if JA News needs to be updated in order to provide correct links (I think this is the more realistic scenario).

And in fact, the JA News module does need to be updated in order to fix the SEF problem since there is a mistake in the following file:
modules/mod_janews/helper.php

On line 200 it currently reads:
‘ CASE WHEN CHAR_LENGTH(cc.alias) THEN CONCAT_WS(“:”, cc.alias) ELSE cc.id END as catslug,’.

When it should read:
‘ CASE WHEN CHAR_LENGTH(cc.alias) THEN CONCAT_WS(“:”, cc.id, cc.alias) ELSE cc.id END as catslug,’.

(notice the extra cc.id portion)

I noticed this problem after I turned off SEF URLs and looked at the normal URLs being generated. For example:
http://www.example.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102:india-closes-torch-relay-to-spectators&catid=horse-racing&Itemid=187

which should look like this:
http://www.example.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102:india-closes-torch-relay-to-spectators&catid=63:horse-racing&Itemid=187

(notice the catid before the catalias of “horse-racing”)

After making the quick change above the SEF URLs on the Frontpage worked just fine.

Try it out and let me know if this works for you (it should!).

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#263352

<em>@cgc0202 70555 wrote:</em><blockquote>That is what I find puzzling about Joomla, there are features in the Joomla 1.0x that for some reason they abandoned. To name three very important ones:

1. The website name is shown at the top of the browser, in every page.

This is not the case with Joomla 1.5.0-1.5.3. With Joomla 1.5.4, only the Homepage shows the name of the website at the top of the browser.

2. There is a way so that the “Intro” text that shows in the Homepage can be different from the text intro in the full article.

I am not sure that it can be done now with the current Article edit format of Joomla 1.5.x

3. In the Joomla 1.0x Global Configuration, there is a one step way of making the title of all the articles linkable.

This should be the default, instead of “Read more” — what I consider a direction for stupid people. As it is now, the default seems to be non-clickable titles and “Read more” as default. You do not see “Read more” in professional online publications, like New York Times.

Cornelio</blockquote>

For your first item it looks like you can use this Joomla 1.5 plugin to bring the site title back in:
http://extensions.joomla.org/component/option,com_mtree/task,viewlink/link_id,3521/Itemid,35/

Or you can use Richard’s SEF Patch for Joomla 1.5 (should give you additional options for SEO):
http://www.joomlatwork.com/docman/cat_view/51.html

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#263355

<em>@omarram 70931 wrote:</em><blockquote>For your first item it looks like you can use this Joomla 1.5 plugin to bring the site title back in:
http://extensions.joomla.org/component/option,com_mtree/task,viewlink/link_id,3521/Itemid,35/
</blockquote>

Thanks omarram,

I did use a fix in one of my earlier installation of Joomla 1.5. X. But, my point is this. I am sure the Joomla Team has been looking at the Joomla 1.5.x since before it was launched (more than a year in the making). They should have seen immediately and noted: “Gee! This is not good. We missed including the script to have the Site name in all pages.”

Why have a plugin at all to correct what is a very significant omission? It should have been corrected by the Core Team a long time ago — more important than SEF, as far as I am concerned, if you are like me who has several windows open all the time, like my email site, news, Joomlart, the sites I am working on, etc.

<em>@omarram 70931 wrote:</em><blockquote>
Or you can use Richard’s SEF Patch for Joomla 1.5 (should give you additional options for SEO):
http://www.joomlatwork.com/docman/cat_view/51.html</blockquote>

Have you used this SEF Patch yourself? Right now, I have too much to do that I did not have a chance to look at other SEF options yet. What is the advantage of this over the default Joomla SEF?

Cornelio

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#263359

<em>@omarram 70929 wrote:</em><blockquote>I’ve read about your workaround, but it seems like that’s what it is rather than a true fix for the SEF URL problem. I’d like to know if JA News needs to be updated in order to provide correct links (I think this is the more realistic scenario).
</blockquote>

Thanks omarram! That ‘s why we call it a workaround. We know it is not the proper fix. It is obvious that the other parts are correctly showing — except in the JA News. We just do not have the background in scripting to find out what would be causing the problem.

<em>@omarram 70929 wrote:</em><blockquote>
And in fact, the JA News module does need to be updated in order to fix the SEF problem since there is a mistake in the following file:
modules/mod_janews/helper.php

On line 200 it currently reads:
‘ CASE WHEN CHAR_LENGTH(cc.alias) THEN CONCAT_WS(“:”, cc.alias) ELSE cc.id END as catslug,’.

When it should read:
‘ CASE WHEN CHAR_LENGTH(cc.alias) THEN CONCAT_WS(“:”, cc.id, cc.alias) ELSE cc.id END as catslug,’.

(notice the extra cc.id portion)

I noticed this problem after I turned off SEF URLs and looked at the normal URLs being generated. For example:
http://www.example.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102:india-closes-torch-relay-to-spectators&catid=horse-racing&Itemid=187

which should look like this:
http://www.example.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102:india-closes-torch-relay-to-spectators&catid=63:horse-racing&Itemid=187

(notice the catid before the catalias of “horse-racing”)

After making the quick change above the SEF URLs on the Frontpage worked just fine.

Try it out and let me know if this works for you (it should!).</blockquote>

Your second example does not work, but I did try your fix, and it works. Thanks. That is why we need people like you to share your expertise.

Cornelio

N.B.

And, you want to know something else? I looked at my download of the earlier version of Joomla 1.5.3-JA Teline II (ja_teline_ii_qui_v1.3_1.5.3). And, it is the correct script just like yours, and here is a copy:

‘ CASE WHEN CHAR_LENGTH(cc.alias) THEN CONCAT_WS(“:”, cc.id, cc.alias) ELSE cc.id END as catslug,’.

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#263432

I’m glad it works, though it looks like this is a new error that has been introduced after the update huh?

I would consider using the JoomlatWork SEF Patch because Richard over there has actually been contributing to the Joomla Core for a while (and for a while his SEF Patch was part of Joomla 1.5, but then towards the end of testing it was taken out for some reason) so I’d be pretty trusting of his work.

His SEF Patch adds an additional SEO tab to the Global Configuration I believe, making it easy to change your settings.

I haven’t tried out the 1.5 version yet but I’m going to be doing that today (I’ve used his 1.0 version in the past however).

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#263490

Hello omarram,
I have used Richards patch without any problem sin the beginning on my site and it works fine!
You cant really do a proper SEO without it in my opinion.
I hope this will be standard in the future.

Bosse

PS have not had the guts to uppgrade to 1.5.5 still using 1.5.3

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