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#296651

OK school’s out. Thanks for all of the new info!

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#296652

Yeah, enough fun for one night. Anyone reading this far into this thread, feel free to do some braging of your own 😉
See ya 😎

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#296653

<em>@instantinlaw 118596 wrote:</em><blockquote>Yeah, enough fun for one night. Anyone reading this far into this thread, feel free to do some braging of your own 😉
See ya :cool:</blockquote>

Oops… I had no idea this went on for 7 pages. You are a very patient teacher… thanks again!

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#296780

What? Nobody wants to do some braging?

Page 3 google for “vintage photos for sale”

Old site redirect to new site
page 4 google for “vintage cabinet cards”

Anyone have good results for desired keywords?

[ShannonN Friend ShannonNJoin date: July 2006Posts: 1947Downloads:0Uploads:9 Thanks: 16 Thanked: 172 times in 49 posts]

#296789

instantinlaw;118758What? Nobody wants to do some braging?

Page 3 google for “vintage photos for sale”

Old site redirect to new site
page 4 google for “vintage cabinet cards”

Anyone have good results for desired keywords?

Get a mod to start a SEO Forum, Bill that way it’s on topic and we can all supply hints and tips, I’m actually surprised there isn’t an SEO thread here already, seems it’s an important part of web design to me

Shanny

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#296794

Hey ShannoN,

You’re right. There should be a SEO forum.

BTW, I am a Super mod i’m just not showing as one. I liked my developer banner better and I’m not as active as I used to be. 😉

Anyway, I don’t remember seeing any options to create a new forum section. I think someone like MiCCAS has to get ahold of Hung and so on to get it done.

Really though, I was bored last night and I was just trying to create some useless conversation in the forum like the old days. Remember the “who’s winning the post count thread”? :p

Bill

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#296798

instantinlaw;118777Hey ShannoN,

You’re right. There should be a SEO forum.

BTW, I am a Super mod i’m just not showing as one. I liked my developer banner better and I’m not as active as I used to be. 😉

Anyway, I don’t remember seeing any options to create a new forum section. I think someone like MiCCAS has to get ahold of Hung and so on to get it done.

Really though, I was bored last night and I was just trying to create some useless conversation in the forum like the old days. Remember the “who’s winning the post count thread”? :p

Bill

Yeah remember those days but now since posts earn credits we see unscrupulous ppl inflating by rubbish posts however I don’t know if public forums count towards that?

Doesn’t worry me really I gave two dev memberships away outta my accumulation and kept one for me. You still into shopping carts Bill?

I’m surprised you haven’t done a review on Magento? I need to install and learn more on Virtuemart may give you a yell for an updated tutorial walkthrough

I’m thinking of making an eBook on SEO and am researching newer techniques etc
time I made enough to cover costs on hosting tutorials etc 🙂

Cheers Shanny

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#296892

Hey ShannoN,

Maybe you’re right about not getting points in the public forum and that’s why nobody wants to join in this thread…

Yeah, I cashed in 6000 points myself 😉

I am still doing alot with Virtuemart. I did look into Magento but alas it still does not have a feature I need and I also had some trouble with it on 1and1. I’m with Rochen now and although they support it they don’t recommend it because it is resource intensive. BTW, I have a reseller account with Rochen now so I’ve expanded into hosting now.

Rochen actually recommends Open Freeway which I have also tried going back to before thier first bridge was posted in the Joomla extensions.

IMHO I think both of those shopping carts are not mature enough for a production site.

Now, VM is full of bugs too, and lacks some important features, but at least it’s pretty well intergrated with Joomla, and besides that I’ve been using it for so long now that I know how to fix the bugs, customize, and get it set up in an hour or two.

On my new site the one this thread is about, I was also able to get the JA Mesolite VM theme intergrated into the JA Edonite template along with some customizations to make things like the add to cart buttons match, etc.

So to sum all of this up, I’m sticking with VM for the time being.

Feel free to email me for any help you need with VM (same email address)

As far as the SEO e-book goes, I say go for it! You already know a great deal about SEO so it shouldn’t be too hard for you to add on to what you already know.

I’ve gotten a lot of really good SEO tips from http://www.sitepronews.com/ I signed up for the newsletter a couple of years back and it almost always teaches me something new. Check it out, I think you’ll like it.

🙂

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#296913

I think this is on topic with SEO… I just saw the most amazing thing… http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=portable+ie8+stable&aq=f&oq= the top listing is the forum just started a few hours ago “Tips IE8 Stable Bug-Fix Tracker – JoomlArt Forums”.

How do they get in Google within only a couple of hours? This is a trick I would really like to know.

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#296915

its no trick. You need to have a site where the content is updated often,The more often you update the content, the more often the spiders will come. If your site is updated as frequently as Ja’s is, and your recognized as an important site, the indexing will be faster.

As of yesterday (this is a very volatile keyword phrase) on Google

# 11 —- Internet Business Consultant — Results 11 – 20 of about 76,800,000

#9 — Internet Business Consulting — Results 1 – 10 of about 38,700,000

same page as Bruce Clay and Garry Egan

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#296917

<em>@mj1256 118938 wrote:</em><blockquote>its no trick. You need to have a site where the content is updated often,The more often you update the content, the more often the spiders will come. If your site is updated as frequently as Ja’s is, and your recognized as an important site, the indexing will be faster.</blockquote>

I take it then that this is one of the reasons why blogging has become so popular on sites where you wouldn’t expect to see it?

Thanks for the info. Another tip I can definately use.

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#296919

imsleepy;118935I think this is on topic with SEO… I just saw the most amazing thing… http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=portable+ie8+stable&aq=f&oq= the top listing is the forum just started a few hours ago “Tips IE8 Stable Bug-Fix Tracker – JoomlArt Forums”.

How do they get in Google within only a couple of hours? This is a trick I would really like to know.

Adding to mj’s comments you have to remember on a forum the subject matter is very specific when posted and is a phrase not just one or two words, like how many competitors are there if a search is done on IE8 Stable as a phrase, rather than two words in a 6 word search, that may be Microsoft IE8 fixes bug reports Stable

Forum posts are often phrases not just two seperated words, so they get more specific and less competition as the query gets more complex, therefore often being so close to the target search phrase, they show as the top or often only result

ShannonN

PR: wait… I: wait… L: wait… LD: wait… I: wait…wait… Rank: wait… Traffic: wait… Price: wait… C: wait…
PR: wait… I: wait… L: wait… LD: wait… I: wait…wait… Rank: wait… Traffic: wait… Price: wait… C: wait…

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#296938

mj1256;118938its no trick. You need to have a site where the content is updated often,The more often you update the content, the more often the spiders will come. If your site is updated as frequently as Ja’s is, and your recognized as an important site, the indexing will be faster.

As of yesterday (this is a very volatile keyword phrase) on Google

# 11 —- Internet Business Consultant — Results 11 – 20 of about 76,800,000

#9 — Internet Business Consulting — Results 1 – 10 of about 38,700,000

same page as Bruce Clay and Garry Egan

Great results. Looks like you’re #1 on google for internet business consultant when I checked just now.

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#297002

Major factor in my results. => age, mu domain is over ten years old, I can spit on it and it ranks 🙂

also, bear in mind
google scrambles results, that means that we all may not get the same results in our searchs

also

The data centers are not in sync, different locales may have different results

also.

data centers go off line from time to time and that skews results

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#297038

<em>@ShannonN 118942 wrote:</em><blockquote>Adding to mj’s comments you have to remember on a forum the subject matter is very specific when posted and is a phrase not just one or two words, like how many competitors are there if a search is done on IE8 Stable as a phrase, rather than two words in a 6 word search, that may be Microsoft IE8 fixes bug reports Stable

Forum posts are often phrases not just two seperated words, so they get more specific and less competition as the query gets more complex, therefore often being so close to the target search phrase, they show as the top or often only result

ShannonN</blockquote>

Hi,

I am by no means an expert at SEO, but I pride myself in getting sites I build on the first page in a search. What you wrote above explains one reason that I might be having success at this. I know that keywords and phrases are important. When I write content for a page, I try to make sure it includes keywords and phrases that I think might be used in a search.

For awhile, I was seeing a lot of “invisible” text, nothing but a jumble of keywords and phrases, on pages which was supposedly a way to get the search engines to find you, but I never tried that. It creates a blank space at the bottom of the page because the text is the same color as the background, but supposedly it works. I have also heard the search engines now ignore it, but how would the search engine know what it is?

What is your opinion of this practice?

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